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Catherine

Catherine Report 23 Feb 2016 17:17

For ref:-
Marriages Mar 1941 (>99%)
Cooper Amy M Davison Liverpool S. 8b 535
Davison Henry Cooper Liverpool S. 8b 535

..........in which case this is also relevant to him

Name: Henry Davison
Probate Date: 7 Mar 1963
Registry: Liverpool, England
Death Date: 14 Feb 1963
Death Place: Liverpool, England

...........of 49 Parthenon Drive
Administration to Amy Margaret Davison widow
Effects £414 2s 7d

Mavis

Mavis Report 23 Feb 2016 16:48



trouble with trying to find the children is that they are born after 1916

some times you are able to find them by married names but unfortunately
not this time

Helena may have dropt the a of the end of her name

Mavis

Catherine

Catherine Report 23 Feb 2016 16:43

For Helena, ancestry suggests this marriage:-

Name: Helena Davison
Spouse Surname: Wells
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1936
Registration district: Eton
Inferred County: Buckinghamshire
Volume Number: 3a
Page Number: 3487
Find Spouse: John W Wells

..............but nothing to say for sure that it is your Helena.

Catherine

Catherine Report 23 Feb 2016 16:42

Can only see one birth for a Ruby Davison in 1914/15, so although it isn't same area is it possible that Ruby died????

Name: Ruby Davison
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1915
Registration Year: 1915
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 0
Registration district: Romsey
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 2c
Page: 168

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 23 Feb 2016 16:25

Henry was living on his own at 183 Edge Lane, Liverpool in 1939 and was a Ministry of Labour Clerk.

Where on earth were his children in 1939 :-)

Squeaky020

Squeaky020 Report 23 Feb 2016 16:17

Rootsgatherer -

Henry Davison born 7 May 1893 to Annie (Nee Allison) and George Davison at 13 Junction Street, Manchester.

Got him on the 1901 and the 1911 living in Salford.

When he remarried in 1941, the marriage was registered in Wavertree.

Henry's occupation says Ministry of Labour Clerk.

Address - 18 Tatley Grove, Knutsford, Cheshire.

His condition says - Formerly the ??? (unreadable) of Ellen Davison (formerly Hoare - spinster) from whom he obtained a divorce.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 23 Feb 2016 16:01

Sorry to have built up your hopes but no joy finding the girls using their given first names and date of birth on the 1939 register. Most annoying! I can't see any of the children on it.

Any more info on Henry please? Maybe we can find him and see who he's living with. Occupation? Date of birth maybe? Where he was living when he remarried?

Squeaky020

Squeaky020 Report 23 Feb 2016 15:56


Paranoid schizophrenia I was told by Kent Archives, I was hoping it may mention spouse or children - but that is all the information they would give me in the email.

I wish I was closer to the archives to look for myself :-( :-(

Would you be willing to please send me the image Rootsgatherer?
I would be very grateful as I like to document everything I can into folders.

:-)

Squeaky020

Squeaky020 Report 23 Feb 2016 15:49

Joyce was married twice -

in 1948 to Haig Hamilton-Welsh
then in 1954 to Charles William Johnson

Flossie who later went by the name of Florence Beryl (everyone called her Beryl)
married Donald Edgar Rice in 1949.

Puzzles me why I cannot find any trace of Ruby or Helena other than birth, they were the first two born and around 15 years before Ellen went into a home.

Ellen's maiden name was Hoare.

Many thanks.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 23 Feb 2016 15:44

Under occupation on the 1939 register Ellen is listed as incapacitated (unable to work). All the patients are listed as incapacitated which you would expect in an institution accommodating patients with (in some cases, long term) mental health issues.

Squeaky020

Squeaky020 Report 23 Feb 2016 15:42

Oh wow, thats from the 1939 register??

I appreciate people taking the time to look.

Is Kent Mental Home - Bridge - I presume would be St Augustine's which is where she died in 1949.

Helena Davison - 6 May 1916 - 18 Worthington Street, Dover is the address given for where born.

Ruby Davison - 4 January 1915 - 9 Eric Road, Dover.

Father is stated on both certificates. Corporal Sergeant Major.

Help is appreciated.

Help is appreciated.

Mavis

Mavis Report 23 Feb 2016 15:41


its from the the 1939 index

incap. unable to do anything


been looking for Joyce and Flossie -- can you tell me what their married surnames are -- might be able to find then that way

Mavis

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 23 Feb 2016 15:33

As Mavis has posted, Ellen is on the 1939 register, still institionalised.

I have tried looking for some of Joyce's siblings on the register without success. I just wondered if they had been listed on it under a different surname. If you would like to post Ruby and / or Helena's exact date of birth I can search using that.

Squeaky020

Squeaky020 Report 23 Feb 2016 15:28

Hi Mavis,

Can I please ask where you found that information?

What does incapacitated mean?

your help is appreciated.

Mavis

Mavis Report 23 Feb 2016 15:11



mother

Ellen Davison DoB 22 Feb. 1895 incapacitated Married

Kent Mental Home - Bridge

Mavis
:-)

Squeaky020

Squeaky020 Report 23 Feb 2016 14:20

Many Thanks Ann for that information,

My grandmother was born 1928 which means she would have been 19 when Canterbury College was established.
I am wondering if there is an email address to contact about past pupils.

Hello RootGatherer,

I havent got a subscription to be able to view the 1939 register unfortunately, it would be a big help if my grandmother was found on there as she was born in 1928 and she would have been 9 years old. I am unsure if orphanages/children's homes would have been recorded on the register??

As for siblings, I have traced Flossie, born 1926 as she was brought up in the same children's home as Joyce and they remained close until Flossie died in 1953.
Ruby born 1915 - I have her Birth cert but nothing at all after has been found.
Helena born 1916, I have her birth cert but cannot find anything after then.
Joan born 1921 - have birth cert but again nothing after.

On Ruby and Helena's father's name Henry Davison (born 7 May 1893 Manchester)
I have a bit of info on Henry, married Ellen Hoare 1913 in Dover. Served in the war.

Ellen went into St Augustine's hospital in 1932.

Henry remarried Amy Cooper in Liverpool 1941.
Henry died 1963 with the informant being N.Davison - Son. cannot find any info on this son.

Still do not know if Henry is 4 of the children's father!

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 23 Feb 2016 13:44

Have you found any of the family on the 1939 register please?

Have you managed to trace any of the siblings? Wondering if that would help if Ellen and her husband split up although Ellen is listed as being married in 1939

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 23 Feb 2016 13:42

Canterbury College was established in 1947 and has grown to be one of the largest Further and Higher Education Colleges in the South East, with campuses in Canterbury and Swale.

Their mission statement is “to be the best at teaching & learning” and they have about 10,000 students and 800 staff. The college predominantly provides Further Education courses to students 16 and up, with a growing provision in Higher Education courses as well as part-time courses for adult learners and flexible studying.

The College is situated near the centre of Canterbury, a city with a large student population.


Engineering - Canterbury College, Kent

www.cant-col.ac.uk/subjects/engineering

Engineering, product design and technology courses at Canterbury College, Kent.



Squeaky020

Squeaky020 Report 23 Feb 2016 12:26

I just had a look at the National Archives website,

I am just wondering if this will have any enrolment details.

Does Canterbury Technical College still exist?

Am I able to contact them directly?

Many Thanks.

Squeaky020

Squeaky020 Report 23 Feb 2016 12:18

Thanks Maddie for the info,

I do believe there were many siblings,

as you stated I have found -

Ruby 1915
Helena 1916
Hubert 1917
Joan 1921
Cyril/Claude 1924
Flossie 1926
Joyce 1928

The first 3 children have Henry Davison registered as father.
The last 4 children have the father's box crossed through. So I am unsure whether the father is the same for all the children.

I will check out the National Archives !