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Looking for information on Christian Horne born 1867 Mexico or New Mexico. Father Peter, Mother Elizabeth. Peter possibly born in Scotland around 1835-40 worked as a mining inspector (so the story goes). Christian come to NZ in around 1896 married Mary Ellen Tobin in 1898 they had 10 children. Don't know if Christian had any siblings. Any help tracing this family would be appreciated. We don't have much information at all. So any hints would be great.

Pauline, is this your man?



Name:Christian Horne

Birth Date:1867

Birth Place:Mexico

Death Date:23 Apr 1944

Death Place:Auckland, New Zealand

Cemetery:Hamilton East Cemetery

Burial or Cremation Place:Hamilton, Hamilton City, Waikato, New Zealand

Spouse: Mary Ellen Horne

Children: Eric Leo Horne

Yes this is my g/grandfather

Yes it was me but it was suggested that I post it in Find Ancestors not Genealogy Chat and delete it. Being new to this I have now lost that information :-(

What a shame! I wonder who gave that advice? Many of us do look-ups on the Genealogy Chat Board as well as Find Ancestors. I know I do.

oh dear - and I found so much information :-( :-(

But really Pauline you must have realized that by deleting the thread you would be losing all of that info. Why didn't you copy it first?

If Pauline promises not to delete or start another thread about this strand of the Thornes, might Ann be willing to try again?

The records probably came from the free site familysearch.org. Which anyone can access if you can learn your way around.

Name Isabella Horn
Gender Female
Birth Date 20 Apr 1868
Birthplace TRANENT,EAST LOTHIAN,SCOTLAND
Father's Name Peter Horn
Mother's Name Elizabeth Johnstone

Name Lillias Horn
Gender Female
Birth Date 29 Aug 1873
Birthplace TRANENT,EAST LOTHIAN,SCOTLAND
Father's Name Peter Horn
Mother's Name Elizabeth Johnstone

Name Peter Horn
Gender Male
Birth Date 23 Mar 1866
Birthplace TRANENT,EAST LOTHIAN,SCOTLAND
Father's Name Peter Horn
Mother's Name Elizabeth Johnstone

I did find Christian's death in Waitiki, NZ, and his wife's death, but can't find them now

A tree on Ancestry says he died 23 April 1944, Auckland, NZ and she 14 June 1942, Hamilton, NZ.

This tree has a photo of Christian and also one of his son Cecil Christian.

Name Christian Horne
Event Type Burial
Event Date 1944
Event Place Hamilton, Hamilton City, Waikato, New Zealand
Photograph Included Y
Death Date 23 Apr 1944
Affiliate Record Identifier 96896208
Cemetery Hamilton East Cemetery

Thank you all for your helpful comments. Especially Ann for posting the information again. I live in NZ so have the deaths and places Christian and his Mary Ellen were buried. We have no idea if Christian had any siblings and if any were living in NZ also we have not been able to find a birth cert for Christian which would help so much. But Peter and Elizabeth Horne are the family we know nothing about so I will follow all these leads kindly sent to me again.
Most towns or districts in NZ have cemetery data bases so you can go online (free) and find family and also plot no's and sometimes photo's of the actual graves.

You should be able to find, purchase & download the Scottish birth records from
http://scotlandspeople.gov.uk/
Its a pay-to-view site, no subscriptions but very reasonable in price.

Scottish Statutory B,M & D records start in 1855 & should give quite detailed information about the parents.
http://scotlandspeople.gov.uk/content/help/index.aspx?r=554&402

I don't understand how if Christian was born in Mexico/NM in 1867 he would have had siblings born in Scotland after that ... and the Peter Horn born 1866 Scotland would not be the Peter father of Christian ...

although of course it is possible that Christian was born in Scotland and grew up in New Mexico, but there should be a birth registration in Scotland in that case

New Mexico would certainly be the more logical destination from Scotland, than Mexico ... for example Cornish miners emigrated to the southwest US in connection with mining in the mid-19th century

Pauline do you have Christian's parents' names from a marriage/death certificate?

do you know about when he arrived in NZ? (how long before marriage?)

second posting

Gins has posted a record stating he was born in Mexico

However, it does look as though that record is based on infomation from either his grave OR his death certificate ................

and we all know that such information can be faulty as it is based on what has been reported by the deceased, which may or may not be accurate.

I think Joonie's suggestion that New Mexico is a place to look is worth consideration ....... as well as a consideration of how he had younger siblings born in Scotland.

Did the whole family go back to Scotland between his birth and those of the siblings? If so, then it should be possible to find them on a census.

If not ............. then are the Scottish records for cousins / other relatives, and not his siblings?