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looks very much like a boarding house or hotel

Name George J Davies
Event Type Census
Event Date 1871
Event Place St Mary Magdalen, London, Middlesex, England
Enumeration District 6g
Gender Male
Age 24
Marital Status Unmarried
Occupation clerk
Birth Year (Estimated) 1847
Birthplace London, Middlesex
Entry Number 9
Affiliate Image Identifier GBC/1871/0427/0127

Name George J Davies
County London, Middlesex
Event Type Census
Event Date 1861
Event Place St Marylebone, London, Middlesex, England
Ecclesiastical Parish Christchurch
Registration District Marylebone
Residence Note Chapel Street
Gender Male
Age 13
Occupation Scholar
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Birth Year (Estimated) 1848
Birthplace Marylebone, Middlesex
Page Number 14
Registration Number RG09
Piece/Folio 80 / 9
Affiliate Record Type Household


George Davies Head M 49 Tooting, Surrey
Elizabeth Davies Wife F 46 Marylebone, Middlesex
George J Davies Son M 13 Marylebone, Middlesex

from family search

looks like boarding house

https://goo.gl/3d4YsR

Wow! This is so brilliant! I wasn't sure anything could be found as he had a relatively common name in London. Thank you so much!

I guess I might be able to find George's birth certificate with parents George and Elizabeth?

I don't know Lodon very well but according to Wikipedia: Marylebone is an affluent inner-city area of central London, England, located within the City of Westminster.

That still seems to add up..

George Samuel Davies
born Oct 22nd 1870
Baptised Sept 5th 1877, Southwark
Abode: 26 Surrey Row
Father: George James (Labourer)
Mother: Fanny
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Fanny Mary Davies
Born July 1873
Baptised Sept 5th 1877, Southwark
Abode: 26 Surrey Row
Father: George James (Labourer)
Mother: Fanny
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James William Davies
Born Mar 22nd 1876
Baptised Sept 5th 1877, Southwark
Abode: 26 Surrey Row
Father: George James (Labourer)
Mother: Fanny
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Thomas Henry Davis
Born 19th Dec 1877
Baptised 28th March 1878, Southwark
Abode: 26 Surrey Row
Father: George James (Stonemason)
Mother: Fanny
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Albert Joseph Davis
Baptised 18th May 1880 Southwark
Abode: 26 Surry Row
Father: George James (Stonemason)
Mother: Fanny
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Ernest John Davis
Baptised 4th Sept 1882 Southwark
Abode: 176 Union Street
Father: George James (Stonemason)
Mother: Fanny
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Name: Francis Augustine Davis (This child died in 1887)
Baptism: 20 Jan 1885 Southwark
Abode: 1 Bridge Place
Father: George James (Stonemason)
Mother: Fanny
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Name: Caroline Davies
(Private) Baptism: 9th August 1887 Southwark
Abode: 1 Bridge Place, Bridge Road
Father: George (Stonemason)
Mother: Fanny
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Name: Alice May Davies
Baptism: 25th March 1890 Southwark
Abode: 4 William Street
Father: George (Coroner Officer)
Mother: Fanny

But if he's the son of George and Elizabeth then, unless he's listed on the census twice, surely this is him in 1871 (from the census I put up on the previous page)?

Image reads George J-

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Clarendon Square, Pancras, London, England

George Davies Head - Male 58 1813 - Grainer, Tooting,Surrey,
Elizabeth Davies Wife - Female 54 1817 - Marylebone, Middlesex,
George T Davies Son - Male 23 1848 - Journalist- Marylebone, Middlesex,

This is really helpful! I'm taking over Dad's research but am quite new to this myself. :-) Thank you again!

Please can you tell me where I can buy the birth certificates that AustinQ kindly found the baptisms for? I would like to order all of my Grandfather's siblings certificates to get a little bit more information about George James.

Please do you know how I can know which George James is the right one on the 1871 Census? I don't want to be chasing the wrong ancestors. The area is right but how can it be narrowed down?

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Wyndham Street, Marylebone, Middlesex, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Alice Herbert Nurse Child - Female 2 1849 - -
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George Davies Head Married Male 40 1811 House Decorator Tooting, Surrey, England xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Elizabeth Davies Wife Married Female 35 1816 - Marylebone, Middlesex, England
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George Toombs - Unmarried Male 3 1848 - Marylebone, Middlesex, England
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Amelia Courtenay - Widow Female 26 1825 Dressmaker Christchurch
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Charlotte Courtenay Daughter - Female 4 1847 - Lambeth, Surrey, England
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Walter Courtenay Son - Male 5 1846 - Lambeth, Surrey, England


Births Sep 1847 (>99%)
DAVIES George Toombs Marylebone 1

i don't think the george davies decorator and grainer is the right one

England Marriages 1538-1973 Transcription
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First name(s) Elizabeth
Last name Toombs
Name note -
Marriage year 1840
Marriage date 01 Mar 1840
Marriage place Marylebone
Father's first name(s) Henry
Father's last name Toombs
Spouse's first name(s) George
Spouse's last name Davies
Spouse's father's first name(s) George Watkinson
Spouse's father's last name Davies
Residence Marylebone, Middlesex, England
County Durham
Country England
Record set England Marriages 1538-1973
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
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1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
9, Fortnum Road, Islington, London, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George T Davies Head Married Male 33 1848 Journalist City of London, Middlesex, England
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Elizabeth Davies Mother Widow Female 70 1811 - City of London, Middlesex, England

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Fortnam Road, Islington, London, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Davies Head Married Male 43 1848 Journalist Paddington, Middlesex, England
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Jane Davies Wife Married Female 33 1858 - Allington, Lincolnshire, England
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Jane E Davies Daughter - Female 9 1882 - Holloway, Middlesex, England
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George M Davies Son - Male 7 1884 - Holloway, Middlesex, England
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Hilda D Davies Daughter - Female 5 1886 - Holloway, Middlesex, England
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Emma Blythe Sister Single Female 30 1861 - Allington, Lincolnshire, England

Thanks Safc- I didn't think it was correct, but was worried that Hannah had taken the 1861 on page 1 as the correct one when she mentioned parents being George and Elizabeth.

So, Hannah- the 1861 & 1871 census for George with parents, Elizabeth and George, are incorrect.

Once you've found the births in the indexes here:
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
make a note of the vol and page numbers

You can then order birth certificates online here (cost £9.25):

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

This is a little weird too in 1901 George's wife Fanny is listed as a widow, but in 1911 she is listed as married to William Shroll for 18 years. Looking at the marriage indexes they were actually married 1894!

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
211, Great Dover Street, Newington, St Saviour Southwark, London, England

Fanny Davies Head Widow Female 47 1854 Linen Collar Turner Westminster, Middlesex,
Egbert John Davies Son Single Male 18 1883 Warehouseman N K Borough, Surrey,
Alice Davies Daughter - Female 11 1890 - London, England
William Schroll Boarder Single Male 35 1866 Printer Bristol, Gloucestershire,
William Folly Boarder Single Male 25 1876 Carman Tooting, Surrey, England
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1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
34 Riverhall St S Lambeth SW, Lambeth, London, England

William Shroll Head Married Male Printer's Assistant 44 1867 Bedminster Bristol
Fanny Shroll Wife Married Female - 58 1853 Westminster
Caroline Davies Stepdaughter Single Female Waitress At Acrated Bread Co 23 1888 Parish of Southwark
Alice May Davies Stepdaughter Single Female Envelope Maker 21 1890 Parish of Southwark
Ernest John Davies Step-Son Married Male General Labourer 28 1883 Parish of Southwark
Lilian Nelson Davies Step Daughter In Law Married Female - 29 1882 Old Kent Rd Surrey
Ernest George Davies Step-Grandson - Male - 5 1906 Draper St WalworthSurrey
Albert James Davies Step-Grandson - Male - 0 1911 East St Old Kent Rd Surrey
Charles Orton Sabine Boarder Widower Male Clerk 50 1861 Parish of Hackney London
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Marriage:

First name(s) WILLIAM
Last name SHROLL
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1894
MarriageFinder™ WILLIAM SHROLL married
FANNY DAVIES
District ST. SAVIOUR SOUTHWARK
County London
Volume 1D Page 305

Thank you AustinQ! I remember Dad mentioning that Fanny married again but I didn't know to whom. I'll see if I can get more details on this lead too, thank you!

Just looked this up on the 1851 Census and wondered if this is a young George James Davies and family - what do you think?

13 Gun Yard London
George Davies (head) married 57 Labourer Middlesex Marylebone
Esther wife married 37 Middlesex Whitechapel
George son 4 Middlesex Shoreditch
Mary daughter 1 Middlesex Shoreditch
Caroline Ridler step-daughter 11 Middlesex Shoreditch

Just trying to sort if he could be the right one-

I don't think Esther Ridler married George- this is her in the workhouse 1855/ 56:


Selected Poor Law Removal and Settlement Records, 1698-1930

Name: Esther Ridler
Age: 41
Birth Year: abt 1814
Record Type: Settlement Papers
Event Date: 11 May 1855
Poor Law Union or Parish: Shoreditch
Residence: Shoreditch

Esther Ridler aged 41 in workhouse...came from house of correction for desertion of children.. Husband Thomas Ridler died 15 years ago. 3 children [from her marriage] 2 dead. Caroline aged 16 not now dependant being in service.
Has 2 illegitimate children George aged, Mary aged 6.
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Name: Esther Ridler
Age: 42
Birth Year: abt 1814
Record Type: Settlement Papers
Event Date: 11 Dec 1856
Poor Law Union or Parish: Shoreditch

Esther Ridler (Widow) 42 Buniolls Place, Kingsland Road, 3 Children, Caroline (crossed through), George 10, Mary 7, married husband Thomas at Stepney 18years ago. He died some years ago.

That's interesting, thank you, AustinQ.

Just wonder if it's possible to find the birth and parents of my George James?

There are that many George Davis/ Davies in the Middlesex area that it's going to be tough!

Do you have access to Ancestry?

Just looking at the Witnesses for his marriage, a Bobbies999 has a DAVIS FAMILY tree with Harry Woods and Sarah C Lungley in. It is a private tree, but it might be worth sending them a message to see if they have info on your George?

Marriage:
Name: Harry Woods
Spouse: Sarah Clara Lungley
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 4 Aug 1878
Parish: St Anne, Limehouse
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: Harry Woods
Spouse Father: Paul Lungley
Register Type: Parish Register


1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
13, Norland Road, Kensington, London, England
Harry Woods Head Married Male 25 1856 Farrier Kensington, Middlesex,
Sarah Woods Wife Married Female 26 1855 - Essex, England
Henry Woods Son Single Male 1 1880 - Kensington, Middlesex,

Yes, it is very tough. I think that's why my Dad gave up! I've just joined Ancestry so have sent Bobbies999 a message and copy of George James' marriage with the witness names included. I'll post up his reply if and when I get one.

I guess the witnesses could be friends but maybe related.

Thanks again!

Just heard back from Bobbies999 The Davis Family Tree

"Unfortunately it isn't the same family. The spelling for my research name is definitely Davis and there are no links that I've found with Walworth. My Sara Clara was was never a 'Wood'. Any way good luck with your research."

If George James Davies/Davis was born about 1847, then I should expect him to be on the 1851 census as a child with his family - possibly in the same Westminster area of London.