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joysie4
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24 Jun 2016 12:42 |
william john mcdowell b 1766 clones ireland second marriage to catherine bowman 28/3/1812
I dont have her birth date or were she was born
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Maddie
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24 Jun 2016 13:01 |
for ref
Name: Catherine Bowman Gender: Female Marriage Date: 28 Mar 1812 Marriage Place: Stoke Damerel,Devon,England Spouse: William Mc Dowel FHL Film Number: 916925, 916926, 916927
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greyghost
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24 Jun 2016 13:03 |
1841 census would appear to show that Catherine was born c 1791 - if accurate this could mean anywhere between 1786 and 1791 as ages were supposes to be rounded down to the nearest 5
That same census says she was not born in Devon
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Chapel Street, Stoke Damerel, Devon, England
First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place George Winnecott Male 60 1781 Devon, England Mary Winnecott Female 70 1771 Devon, England William McDowell Male 75 1766 Ireland Catherine McDowell Female 50 1791 -
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Maddie
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24 Jun 2016 13:06 |
1841
Name: Catherine McDowell Age: 50 Estimated birth year: abt 1791 Gender: Female Civil Parish: Stoke Damerell Hundred: Roborough County/Island: Devon Country: England Street address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: Stoke Damerel Sub-registration district: St Aubyn Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 274 Book: 1 Folio: 33 Page Number: 61 Household Members: Name Age William McDowell 75 Catherine McDowell 50
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malyon
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24 Jun 2016 13:10 |
Catherine Bowman England Births and Christenings Name Catherine Bowman Gender Female Christening Date 08 May 1791 Christening Place LONGHAM,NORFOLK,ENGLAND Birth Date 18 Apr 1791 Father's Name William Bowman Mother's Name Alice Peck
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Maddie
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24 Jun 2016 13:14 |
????????????? William Last name Mcdowell Age 74 Birth year 1770 Burial year 1844 Burial date 23 Mar 1844 Denomination Anglican Place Stoke Damerel County Devon Country England Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office Archive reference 166/91 Page 118 Record set Devon Burials Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Deaths & burials Collections from Great Britain
Plymouth & West Devon Record Office Collection
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24 Jun 2016 13:16 |
FMP shows I have looked up McDowell, (Stoke Damerel, Plymouth) before.
There are numerous threads from Joyce re McDowell easily found by putting the name in Quick Search. I'm afraid there are enough to put me off looking to see if any in particular refer to William and Catherine. they go back to at least 2004 and come through to at least 2015
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Maddie
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24 Jun 2016 13:18 |
from ancestry Private Member PhotosPictures Photo: Burial 1869 Category: Portrait Taken: 27 Aug 1869 - East Dereham, Norfolk,England Attached To: Catherine Bowman (born 1791
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Chris Ho :)
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24 Jun 2016 13:54 |
http://www.genesreunited.co.nz/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1353628?d=asc&page=2
(1812 Marriage details on above)
Chris :)
(and probably the Norfolk Catherine one below)
1851 (Find My Past) William Head Head Married Male 61 1790 Brickmaker Brandon, Norfolk, England Catherine Head Wife Married Female 60 1791 - Longham, Norfolk, England James Head Son Unmarried Male 28 1823 Ag Lab East Dereham, Norfolk, England Thomas Head Son Unmarried Male 17 1834 Brickmaker East Dereham, Norfolk, England Street Toftwood Common Parish East Dereham Norfolk County Norfolk Registration district Mitford Archive reference HO107 Piece number 1825 Folio 113 Page 17
Baptism County Norfolk Place Longham Church name St Andrew Register type Archdeacon's Transcripts Baptism date 8 May 1791 Birth date 18 Apr 1791 Person forename Catherine Person sex F Father forename William Father surname BOWMAN Mother forename Alice Mother surname PECK Register note Mother 'late Peck, Spinster'.
County Norfolk Place East Dereham Church name St Nicholas Register type Parish Register Register entry number 67 Marriage date 23 Oct 1815 Groom forename William Groom surname HEAD Groom condition Bachelor Groom parish East Dereham Bride forename Catherine Bride surname BOWMAN Bride condition Spinster Bride parish East Dereham Witness Thomas RUDLEDGE Witness Elizabeth HEAD
edits (I have posted on some McDowell 'Threads' myself, probably the Burials!)
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joysie4
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24 Jun 2016 16:02 |
Thank you all for the information
Maddie do you have photos of the buriels then
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malyon
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24 Jun 2016 16:06 |
Catherine Bowman England and Wales Non-Conformist Record Indexes (RG4-8), 1588-1977
christening:
18 July 1792
Nantwich, Cheshire
father:
Eddowor Bowman
mother:
Catherine Bowman
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Maddie
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24 Jun 2016 16:11 |
no sorry, it is from a private tree on ancestry
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malyon
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24 Jun 2016 16:18 |
Deaths Jun 1842 (>99%)
McDOWELL William Stoke Damerel 9 342
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Chris Ho :)
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24 Jun 2016 16:24 |
Deaths Sep 1869 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------ Head Katherine 79 Mitford 4b 166
(wouldn't mind guessing she is above one!, covers East Dereham)
Chris :)
(if her)
Burial County Norfolk Place East Dereham Church name St Nicholas Register type Parish Register Register entry number 2175 Burial date 30 Aug 1869 Person age 80 Burial person forename Katherine Burial person surname HEAD Burial person abode Dereham
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(yours below Joyce?, as I see you said Catherine was present at Death)
Deaths Mar 1858 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------------ McDoual Catherine Stoke Damerel 5b 252
Joyce Report 2 Aug 2015 09:19
I have his death certificate William Mcdowall 21/3/ 1844 57 Chapel st Devonport age 74 seaman x mark of of Catherine Mcdowall present at death
Deaths Mar 1844 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------------ McDOWALL William Stoke Damerel 9 322
Plymouth Deaths & Burials Transcription (Find My Past)
First name(s) Catherine Last name Mcdonal Age 78 Birth year 1780 Burial year 1858 Burial date 06 Mar 1858 Denomination Anglican PlaceStoke Damerel County Devon (Abode, Workhouse)
1851 (Find My Past) Catherine McDougol Head W Female 79 1772 Parish Support Sunderland, Durham, England House number 57 Street Chapel Street Parish Stoke Damerel City Devonport County Devon Parliamentary borough Devonport Municipal ward St Aubyn Registration district Stoke Damerel Archive reference HO107 Piece number 1881 Folio 99 Page 13
First name(s) WILLIAM Last name MCDOWALL Gender Male Death quarter 1 Death year 1844 District STOKE DAMEREL County Devon Volume 9 Page 322
http://www.plymouth.gov.uk/archives
(see what above hold for Workhouse Records, to check for Catherine)
(and checking image of 1812 Marriage, could be Mcdonel!)
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joysie4
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26 Jun 2016 20:27 |
this is getting confusing again as the surnames and dates are different what is the correct one
Thanks for your help
joyce m
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Chris Ho :)
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26 Jun 2016 21:34 |
Lol Joyce, you're confused, think it is enough to confuse all!.
Is that your William who died 1844, you must know as you have details from Cert., posted above, from another 'Thread'?.
If so, then don't you think that 1858 Catherine Death is her?, same address on 1851 Census, as William Death Cert., 57 Chapel Street.
(unless you have other Death details for Catherine?)
Chris :)
(with surname like Mcdowell. you will probably get many variants!. even Mcdonel, as could well be on 1812 Marriage)
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joysie4
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27 Jun 2016 11:21 |
Thank you Chris
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Chris Ho :)
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27 Jun 2016 11:26 |
The Norfolk Catherine Bowman not your one Joyce, so no further forward, sorry...
Chris :)
(one below, but nothing definite, if her Birthplace Durham, as 1851 Census)
Baptism County Durham Place Whickham Church name St Mary the Virgin Register type Bishop's Transcripts Baptism date 6 Apr 1777 Person forename Catherine Person sex F Person abode Fell: Father forename Richd Father surname BOWMAN Mother forename Cath: Register note Abode is probably Fellside
http://www.freereg.org.uk/
(from above)
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