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william john mcdowell b 1766 clones ireland second marriage to catherine bowman 28/3/1812

I dont have her birth date or were she was born

for ref

Name: Catherine Bowman
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 28 Mar 1812
Marriage Place: Stoke Damerel,Devon,England
Spouse: William Mc Dowel
FHL Film Number: 916925, 916926, 916927

1841 census would appear to show that Catherine was born c 1791 - if accurate this could mean anywhere between 1786 and 1791 as ages were supposes to be rounded down to the nearest 5

That same census says she was not born in Devon

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Chapel Street, Stoke Damerel, Devon, England

First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
George Winnecott Male 60 1781 Devon, England
Mary Winnecott Female 70 1771 Devon, England
William McDowell Male 75 1766 Ireland
Catherine McDowell Female 50 1791 -

1841

Name: Catherine McDowell
Age: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1791
Gender: Female
Civil Parish: Stoke Damerell
Hundred: Roborough
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Stoke Damerel
Sub-registration district: St Aubyn
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 274
Book: 1
Folio: 33
Page Number: 61
Household Members:
Name Age
William McDowell 75
Catherine McDowell 50

Catherine Bowman

England Births and Christenings

Name Catherine Bowman
Gender Female
Christening Date 08 May 1791
Christening Place LONGHAM,NORFOLK,ENGLAND
Birth Date 18 Apr 1791
Father's Name William Bowman
Mother's Name Alice Peck

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William
Last name Mcdowell
Age 74
Birth year 1770
Burial year 1844
Burial date 23 Mar 1844
Denomination Anglican
Place Stoke Damerel
County Devon
Country England
Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office
Archive reference 166/91
Page 118
Record set Devon Burials
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain

Plymouth & West Devon Record Office Collection

FMP shows I have looked up McDowell, (Stoke Damerel, Plymouth) before.

There are numerous threads from Joyce re McDowell easily found by putting the name in Quick Search. I'm afraid there are enough to put me off looking to see if any in particular refer to William and Catherine. they go back to at least 2004 and come through to at least 2015

from ancestry
Private Member PhotosPictures
Photo: Burial 1869
Category: Portrait
Taken: 27 Aug 1869 - East Dereham, Norfolk,England
Attached To: Catherine Bowman (born 1791

http://www.genesreunited.co.nz/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1353628?d=asc&page=2

(1812 Marriage details on above)

Chris :)

(and probably the Norfolk Catherine one below)

1851 (Find My Past)
William Head Head Married Male 61 1790 Brickmaker Brandon, Norfolk, England
Catherine Head Wife Married Female 60 1791 - Longham, Norfolk, England
James Head Son Unmarried Male 28 1823 Ag Lab East Dereham, Norfolk, England
Thomas Head Son Unmarried Male 17 1834 Brickmaker East Dereham, Norfolk, England
Street Toftwood Common
Parish East Dereham Norfolk
County Norfolk
Registration district Mitford
Archive reference HO107
Piece number 1825
Folio 113
Page 17


Baptism
County Norfolk
Place Longham
Church name St Andrew
Register type Archdeacon's Transcripts
Baptism date 8 May 1791
Birth date 18 Apr 1791
Person forename Catherine
Person sex F
Father forename William
Father surname BOWMAN
Mother forename Alice
Mother surname PECK
Register note Mother 'late Peck, Spinster'.


County Norfolk
Place East Dereham
Church name St Nicholas
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 67
Marriage date 23 Oct 1815
Groom forename William
Groom surname HEAD
Groom condition Bachelor
Groom parish East Dereham
Bride forename Catherine
Bride surname BOWMAN
Bride condition Spinster
Bride parish East Dereham
Witness Thomas RUDLEDGE
Witness Elizabeth HEAD

edits (I have posted on some McDowell 'Threads' myself, probably the Burials!)

Thank you all for the information

Maddie do you have photos of the buriels then

Catherine Bowman
England and Wales Non-Conformist Record Indexes (RG4-8), 1588-1977


christening:

18 July 1792

Nantwich, Cheshire


father:

Eddowor Bowman


mother:

Catherine Bowman

no sorry, it is from a private tree on ancestry

Deaths Jun 1842 (>99%)

McDOWELL William Stoke Damerel 9 342

Deaths Sep 1869 (>99%)
------------------------------------------------
Head Katherine 79 Mitford 4b 166

(wouldn't mind guessing she is above one!, covers East Dereham)

Chris :)

(if her)

Burial
County Norfolk
Place East Dereham
Church name St Nicholas
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 2175
Burial date 30 Aug 1869
Person age 80
Burial person forename Katherine
Burial person surname HEAD
Burial person abode Dereham


edits

(yours below Joyce?, as I see you said Catherine was present at Death)

Deaths Mar 1858 (>99%)
------------------------------------------------------------
McDoual Catherine Stoke Damerel 5b 252


Joyce Report 2 Aug 2015 09:19

I have his death certificate William Mcdowall 21/3/ 1844 57 Chapel st Devonport age 74 seaman x mark of of Catherine Mcdowall present at death


Deaths Mar 1844 (>99%)
------------------------------------------------------------
McDOWALL William Stoke Damerel 9 322


Plymouth Deaths & Burials Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) Catherine
Last name Mcdonal
Age 78
Birth year 1780
Burial year 1858
Burial date 06 Mar 1858
Denomination Anglican
PlaceStoke Damerel
County Devon
(Abode, Workhouse)


1851 (Find My Past)
Catherine McDougol Head W Female 79 1772 Parish Support Sunderland, Durham, England
House number 57
Street Chapel Street
Parish Stoke Damerel
City Devonport
County Devon
Parliamentary borough Devonport
Municipal ward St Aubyn
Registration district Stoke Damerel
Archive reference HO107
Piece number 1881
Folio 99
Page 13


First name(s) WILLIAM
Last name MCDOWALL
Gender Male
Death quarter 1
Death year 1844
District STOKE DAMEREL
County Devon
Volume 9 Page 322


http://www.plymouth.gov.uk/archives

(see what above hold for Workhouse Records, to check for Catherine)

(and checking image of 1812 Marriage, could be Mcdonel!)

this is getting confusing again as the surnames and dates are different what is the correct one

Thanks for your help

joyce m

Lol Joyce, you're confused, think it is enough to confuse all!.

Is that your William who died 1844, you must know as you have details from Cert., posted above, from another 'Thread'?.

If so, then don't you think that 1858 Catherine Death is her?, same address on 1851 Census, as William Death Cert., 57 Chapel Street.

(unless you have other Death details for Catherine?)

Chris :)

(with surname like Mcdowell. you will probably get many variants!. even Mcdonel, as could well be on 1812 Marriage)

Thank you Chris

The Norfolk Catherine Bowman not your one Joyce, so no further forward, sorry...

Chris :)

(one below, but nothing definite, if her Birthplace Durham, as 1851 Census)

Baptism
County Durham
Place Whickham
Church name St Mary the Virgin
Register type Bishop's Transcripts
Baptism date 6 Apr 1777
Person forename Catherine
Person sex F
Person abode Fell:
Father forename Richd
Father surname BOWMAN
Mother forename Cath:
Register note Abode is probably Fellside

http://www.freereg.org.uk/

(from above)