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You won't actually see all the details on the certificate as you're only viewing the reference details needed to order a copy from GRO.
You can also search for free on the GRO site itself.
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/login.asp

Marriages which could have taken place in a CoE church might be on line.
The number of sites are too many to mention - do an internet search for the area + parish records.
2 good sources are
http://www.freereg.org.uk/ (Baptism's, Marriages, Burials)
https://familysearch.org/ which also has census and many other records

Finding this site difficult to move around. I've paid to look at some census and birth certificates I've only actually been able to view two of the ones I requested. It seems GR charges for every little thing now whereas you would see the original census details without having to pay to view different versions of same info or not in my case. It says you can contact support but there are no links that I can find... how do you contact them ? Sorry if it's really obvious

Wow. Thanks for info on William Esau didn't realise he had died so young. I knew he had some land that was sold after his death. Didn't realise he lived there too. Thanks again

Thanks xxxx :-)

This is Arthur's wife and daughter, Eva, in 1939.

Walter Household (3 People) 12 Doris Road , Sunbury-on-Thames U.D., Middlesex, England

Eva Walter 26 Jul 1911 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
Herbert Walter 12 Dec 1908 Male Council Labourer Married
4 closed records here
Eva Geater 20 Sep 1875 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Separated
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Arthur's son William Esau Geater died in 1968- Administration:

GEATER William Esau of Nallhead Rd, Hanworth Middlesex died 11 January 1968 Administration Oxford 13 May £436
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William's burial:

Name: William Esaw Geater
Record Type: Burial
Age: 55
Estimated birth year: abt 1913
Burial Date: 23 Jan 1968
Abode: Hut in Field Nall Head Road, Hanworth
Burial Place: St Mary the Virgin, Stanwell, England
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Mary the Virgin, Stanwell
Borough: Richmond upon Thames
Register Type: Parish Register

But you found the entry for Arthur? You can order his Will online (think it still costs £10):

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations)

GEATER Arthur of Rose Cottage Ashford Road, Ashford died June 1959 at Ashford Hospital, Stanwell Middlesex Probate London 3 July to Bertha Edith White widow Effects £800 10s 6d

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=geater&yearOfDeath=1959#calendar

Thank you
Not coming up with any finds for wills. Thank you very much for everyone's help was amazed by your kindness x :-)

Check which tab you had opened - they're in the middle of the page

1996 to present
1858-1996
Soldiers Wills

There is one for Arthur Geater cos several of us have had a look.

Not every person's Estate went to Probate - you'll often find that if everything was left to the wife, it didn't. Similarly if the Estate was too small.

If you were looking for Benjamin - check succeeding years, Until 1996 they were listed under the year Probate was granted, not the year they died.

Checked the probate link and added Arthur but it says no results so does this mean no will ? Thanks

Thank you I will go and have a look. Thanks again to you all for your help xx :-D :-)

Some fantastic research here - Well done folks :-D

Dawn - you can search the Probate Calendar listings and view for free on
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills

In the entry, Probate means there was a Will. Administration means that there wasn't. Any named person was the Executor, not necessarily an heir. In this case it says Probate & that Arthur Geater died on 5 Jun 1959.

Thank you. I know Eva and Arthur never divorced. And had heard stories about 'aunt Betha'. Family had wondered what had happened to the cottage when he died as it didn't go to family. But the death cert showed Eva his wife registering the death but probate went to Bertha White widow Couldn't find Bertha in Sunbury but hadn't thought to look on electoral register. Does this £800 probate mean there wasn't a will as I didn't find one when searching online ? Thank you thank you thank you for your help x

The Effects on Arthur's probate to Bertha........

£800 10s 6d

Prickles.

Bertha's mother's burial......

Ellen Norris in the London, England, Church of England Deaths and Burials, 1813-1980
Name: Ellen Norris
Abode: Rose Cottage, Ashford Road.
Record Type: Burial
Age: 77
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Death Date: abt 1942
Burial Date: 24 Feb 1942
Burial Place: St Mary, Sunbury on Thames, England
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Mary, Sunbury on Thames
Borough: Richmond upon Thames
Register Type: Parish Register

Benjamin White in the London, England, Church of England Deaths and Burials, 1813-1980
Name: Benjamin White
Abode: 39 Hanworth Road, Sunbury Common.
Record Type: Burial
Age: 82
Estimated birth year: abt 1854
Death Date: abt 1936
Burial Date: 27 Apr 1936
Burial Place: St Mary, Sunbury on Thames, England
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Mary, Sunbury on Thames
Borough: Richmond upon Thames
Register Type: Parish Register

oh- but wait!!

Birth doesn't match 1939:

Surrey, England, Church of England Baptisms

Name: Bertha Edith Norris
Birth Date: 3 Aug 1885
Baptism Date: 6 Sep 1885
Archive Provided Parish: Norbiton, St Peter
Parish as it Appears: Norbiton
Father: Edward James Buttery Norris
Mother: Ellen Norris

EDIT: Phew, it does!! Transcription error :)
She was born 27 July 1885!!
And see PH added same to her post above- great minds :)

So all fits nicely

So- Bertha Edith Norris, daughter of Edward J B Norris and Ellen Meer was born in 1885.

She marries Benjamin White in 1931 (he's quite a bit older than her). Benjamin dies in 1936. She briefly moves back with her mother.

And then in 1939 she moves in with Arthur Geater (as his housekeeper ;-) )

Arthur dies in 1959 and Bertha possibly dies in 1977

So her birth:

First name(s) BERTHA EDITH
Last name NORRIS
Birth year 1885
Birth quarter 3
District KINGSTON
County Surrey
Country England
Volume 2A Page 330

Yes! It was her parents:

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Walton Road, East Molesey, Kingston, Surrey, England

Edward Norris Head Married Male 29 1862 Bicycle Maker Lambeth, Middlesex, England
Ellen Norris Wife Married Female 27 1864 - Plymouth, Somerset, England
Bertha Norris Daughter - Female 5 1886 - Norbiton, Surrey, England
Sidney Norris Son - Male 4 1887 - Surrey, England
Charles Norris Son - Male 0 1891 - Surrey, England