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Thank you for your help Regards; Steve

his second marriage
Marriages Sep 1938   (>99%)

Ireland
 Maurice W
 Warner
 Poole
 5a
947

Marriages Dec 1906   (>99%)

Cotching
 Catherine Helen
 
 Horsham
 2b
723
  
IRELAND
 Maurice Willoughby
 
 Horsham
 2b
723
  

Births Mar 1881   (>99%)

COTCHING
 Catherine Ellen
 
 Horsham
 2b
342

this is

IRELAND, GEORGE  WILLOUGHBY  


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Mother's Maiden Surname: COTCHING  
Order:
IRELAND, GEORGE  WILLOUGHBY  
COTCHING  RO Reference: 1907  D Quarter in HORSHAM  Volume 02B  Page 283

What is that you are looking to find out about Helen?
If you want to find out about her past, then we will need to know what is on the marriage certificate?

EDIT

As Maurice died in Sheffield, and although the date of birth is not exactly the same as 1939 record, I would think that this would be the death of Helen:-

Name: Helen Ireland
Birth Date: 4 Aug 1896
Date of Registration: Jun 1980
Age at Death: 83
Registration district: Sheffield
Inferred County: South Yorkshire
Volume: 3
Page: 1691

Thank you for your replay, we are also trying to find out what happen to the Estate & land of `Highfure` in Billinghurst, west sussex, IN THE 1930`S.
we know it was a Covent School during the World War 11 but we do not know who lived there from the 1934 to that time Regards Steve Gover

What was Helen's father's name ?

It should be on the marriage certificate.

If you think that Helen had a daughter, then was she married before.
The marriage cert. shoudl also tell you if Warner was her married name or her maiden name.

Would also be relevat:-

Name: Maurice Willoughby Ireland
Death Date: 10 Feb 1945
Death Place: Sheffield, England
Probate Date: 12 Nov 1945
Registry: Wakefield

Probate to Helen Ireland widow

This looks to be Maurice

Name: Maurice Willoughby Ireland
Age in 1911: 41
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Billingshurst, Sussex
Civil Parish: Billingshurst
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County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street address: Highfire Billingshurst
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Farmer
Registration district: Horsham
Registration District Number: 81
Sub-registration district: West Horsham
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 27
Piece: 5281
Household Members:
Name Age
Maurice Willoughby Ireland 41
Catherine Helen Ireland 30
George Willoughby Ireland 3
Edward Flenister Cotching 16
Kate Scutt 25
Annie Lelliot 22
Annie Pyzer 20


which would fit with date of birth in 1939?

is this them in 1939

15 Ranmoor Park Road , Rotherham C.B., Yorkshire (West Riding), England
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FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER

Helen Ireland 14 Aug 1896 Female Caretaker Married 170 2
Maurice Ireland 18 Nov 1869 Male Caretaker Married 170 1

+ 1 record closed (maybe Helen's daughter?)

Any dates of birth please?

I am trying to fine Helen, Warner who married Maurice ,Willoughby, Ireland of `Highfure ` Billinghurst in 1938 at Poole Dorset, We know Maurice , Ireland died in Sheffield in 1945 we also think Helen , Warner had a Daughter. any help would be helpful Regards: Steve Gover