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My pleasure.

Prickles. :-)

Malyon

That imight be worth following up

Austin Q

Thanks for your input

PricklyHolly

Wow what can i say you have excelled your self
im so grateful for all your help now i know who the twins belong to.
No wonder i couldnt find them with the info i was given but i do know their was a Blackpool connection somewhere.
I'll go through it all.

Thanks

sue

Ada's second marriage......

Ada Corner in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Ada Corner
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1968
Registration district: Blackpool
Inferred County: Lancashire
Spouse: Bertram Barnes
Volume Number: 10b
Page Number: 690


Ada Barnes in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Ada Barnes
Birth Date: 1 Dec 1898
Date of Registration: Nov 1986
Age at Death: 87
Registration district: Blackpool and Fylde
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 40
Page: 644

Philip and Ada must have divorced.....

Philip Corner in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Philip Corner
Birth Date: 24 Oct 1900
Date of Registration: Jun 1972
Age at Death: 71
Registration district: Manchester
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 10e
Page: 521


Philip Corner in the Manchester, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1915
Name: Philip Corner
Birth Date: 24 Oct 1900
Age: 0
Baptism Date: 11 Nov 1900
Parish: Collyhurst, St James
Parish as it Appears: Collyhurst, St James
Father's name: Philip Corner
Mother's name: Mary Jane Corner


??

Bertram Barnes in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Bertram Barnes
Birth Date: 6 Jan 1903
Date of Registration: Jun 1974
Age at Death: 71
Registration district: Blackpool and Fylde
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 40
Page: 0391


Births Mar 1903 (>99%)
Barnes Bertram Leigh 8c 306

Joan's marriage......

Marriages Dec 1947 (>99%)
Corner Joan M Riding Blackpool 10b 833
Riding Francis F Corner Blackpool 10b 833

Joan Riding in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Joan Riding
Birth Date: 17 Oct 1924
Date of Registration: Mar 1979
Age at Death: 54
Registration district: Blackburn
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 40
Page: 0323

A son born to the marriage in 1949


Malcolm F Riding in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1916-2005
Name: Malcolm F Riding
Mother's Maiden Surname: Corner
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1949
Registration district: Blackpool
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 10b
Page Number: 618

Sadly, he died in 1959......

Malcolm F Riding in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Malcolm F Riding
Birth Date: abt 1950
Date of Registration: Jun 1959
Age at Death: 9
Registration district: Blackburn
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 10b
Page: 428

Her husbands death.....

??

Francis Frederick Riding in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Francis Frederick Riding
Birth Date: 11 Aug 1924
Date of Registration: Jan 2002
Age at Death: 77
Registration district: Blackpool
Inferred County: Lancashire
Register Number: B11D
District and Subdistrict: 5811B
Entry Number: 139

Births Sep 1924 (>99%)
Riding Francis F Yates Blackburn 8e 564

Marion's marriage......

Marriages Sep 1944 (>99%)
CORNER Marion Deans Blackpool 8e 1215
DEANS Walter E Corner Blackpool 8e 1215

Marion Deans in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Marion Deans
Birth Date: 17 Oct 1924
Date of Registration: Nov 2002
Age at Death: 78
Registration district: Blackpool
Inferred County: Lancashire
Register Number: C13D
District and Subdistrict: 5811C
Entry Number: 231

A son born to the marriage in 1945.
Married in 1992.


Marion's husbands death.......

Walter Earl Deans in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Walter Earl Deans
Birth Date: 30 Apr 1922
Date of Registration: Oct 1998
Age at Death: 76
Registration district: Blackpool
Inferred County: Lancashire
Register Number: B2D
District and Subdistrict: 5811B
Entry Number: 108

??

Texas Birth Index, 1903-1997
Name Walter Earl Dean
Date of Birth 30 Apr 1922
Birth County Jefferson
Certificate Number 22745
Roll number 1922_0004

Thank you Austin

I thought they must belong to someone!

Husband Philip is with his father........

Philip Corner on the 1939 Register

Corner Household (2 People) 96 Victoria Avenue , Manchester C.B., Lancashire, England
Philip Corner (Son) 24 Oct 1900 Male Motor Driver Cws Married 14 2
Philips Corner (Deurose) 11 Oct 1873 Male Labourer Retired Widowed 14 1

Nicely done PH!

Here is Ada and daughter Marion on the 1939 Register.....

Barnes (Corner) Household (6 People) 19 Carleton Avenue , Blackpool C.B., Lancashire, England
Ada Barnes (Corner) 01 Dec 1898 Female Cafe Superviser Married 14 1
(I Closed Record)
Marion Dehns...**Deans on the image** (Corner) 17 Oct 1924 Female Toy Hand (Wood) Single 14 3
Hugh G Richmond 09 Mar 1884 Male Hotel Porter Married 14 4
Emma Pickering 05 Aug 1856 Female Retired Married 14 5
Robert W Baron 27 Aug 1908 Male Insurance Agent Married 14 1
Lucy Baron 16 Jan 1909 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 14 2

The closed record must be Joan

Ada Flitcroft in the Manchester, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1930
Name: Ada Flitcroft
Birth Year: abt 1899
Age: 23
Marriage Date: 12 Sep 1922
Parish: Tonge cum Alkrington, St Michael
Parish as it Appears: Tonge-C-Alkrington
Father: John William Flitcroft
Spouse: Philip Corner
Spouse Father: Philip Deurose Corner
Reference Number: L148
Item Number: 5
Archive Roll: 636

It was Ada and Philip who had the twins..........

Births Dec 1924 (>99%)
Corner Joan M Flitcroft Prestwich 8d 409
Corner Marion Flitcroft Prestwich 8d 410

Marriages Dec 1915 (>99%)
Flitcroft Amy E Oldham Oldham 8d 1426
Oldham Harvey Flitcroft Oldham 8d 1426

Amy E Oldham on the 1939 Register

Oldham Household (2 People) 220 Grimshaw Lane , Middleton M.B., Lancashire, England
Amy E Oldham 08 Apr 1889 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 76 2
Harvey Oldham 26 Dec 1886 Male Club Steward Married 76 1
(2 Closed Records)

Births Jun 1921 (>99%)
Oldham Edna Flitcroft Oldham 8d 1333

Births Dec 1922 (>99%)
Oldham Harvey Flitcroft Oldham 8d 988


Marriages Dec 1917 (>99%)
Flitcroft Louisa R Robinson Prestwich 8d 455
Robinson James Flitcroft Prestwich 8d 455


Louisa R Robinson on the 1939 Register

Robinson Household (4 People) 6 Shakleton Avenue , Manchester C.B., Lancashire, England
Louisa R Robinson 29 May 1894 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 327 2
James Robinson 26 Oct 1895 Male Railway Washer Heavy Married 327 1
James Robinson 24 Jan 1919 Male Printer's Labourer Single 327 3
(1 Closed Record)
William Robinson 01 May 1927 Male At School Single 327 5


Births Mar 1919 (>99%)
Robinson James Flitcroft Prestwich 8d 361

Births Mar 1921 (>99%)
Robinson Harold Flitcroft Prestwich 8d 617

Births Jun 1927 (>99%)
Robinson William Flitcroft Manchester N. 8d 726


Is this May's marriage

??

Marriages Sep 1928 (>99%)
Clark Arthur Flitcroft Manchester N. 8d 1171
Flitcroft May Clark Manchester N. 8d 1171


Her baptism record gives her date of birth as......4th May 1904

However.......

Flitcroft May Clark Manchester N. 8d 1171

Clark Household (2 People) 27 Lee Road , Manchester C.B., Lancashire, England
May Clark 01 May 1904 Female Unpaid House Duties Married 191 2
Arthur Clark 28 Aug 1904 Male Canvasser Tea Married 191 1


May Clark in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: May Clark
Birth Date: 1 May 1904
Date of Registration: Apr 1987
Age at Death: 82
Registration district: Manchester
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 38
Page: 871

Perhaps they were cousins of Charles Harold- have you followed the older brothers to see the names of their children?

Or perhaps they were related by marriage?

There is often a little truth somewhere in the memories, it's just they get a little distorted along the way. Frustrating trying to unpick it all!

family in 1891

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Amy E Flitcroft
England and Wales Census, 1891
Name
Amy E Flitcroft
Event Type
Census
Event Date
1891
County
Lancashire
Parish
Harpurhey
Ecclesiastical Parish
ST STEPHEN
Registration District
Prestwich
Residence Note
Linton Street
Gender
Female
Age
2
Relationship to Head of Household
Daughter
Birth Year (Estimated)
1889
Birthplace
Manchester, Harpurhey
Page Number
10
Registration Number
RG12
Piece/Folio
3269/ 113
Household
Role
Gender
Age
Birthplace
John Flitcroft
Head
M
22
Hulme
Ada Flitcroft
Wife
F
20
Sheffield, England
Amy E Flitcroft
Daughter
F
2
Manchester, Harpurhey

a Arnold lord married a may parry 1961

LORD
 Arnold
 PARRY
 Rochdale
 10f
754
  
PARRY
 May
 LORD
 Rochdale
 10f
754

Census is right

Harold is actually Charles Harold Flitcroft which is the line im doing which i have researched but his daughter Laura never knew her grandparents but said her father had sibling Marian and Joan

I cannot find anything so maybe she got it wrong thanks for your help

If this is John and Ada on the 1911 census........

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Bellhouse House Rochdale Road Blackley Manchester, North Manchester, Lancashire, England

John William Flitcroft Head Married Male Sexton And Gravedigger 43 1868 Lancashire Manchester
Ada Flitcroft Wife Married Female - 41 1870 Lancashire
Amy Elizabeth Flitcroft Daughter Single Female Cotton Polisher 22 1889 Lancashire Manchester
George William Flitcroft Son Single Male Spinning Cotton Piecer 19 1892 Lancashire Manchester
Louisa Royal Flitcroft Daughter - Female Spinning Cotton Winder 16 1895 Lancashire Manchester
Ada Flitcroft Daughter - Female School 12 1899 Lancashire Manchester
John Flitcroft Son - Male School 10 1901 Lancashire Manchester
May Flitcroft Daughter - Female School 7 1904 Lancashire Manchester
Harold Flitcroft Son - Male - 2 1909 Lancashire Manchester
William Flitcroft Son - Male - 1 1910 Lancashire Manchester

8 children born and living (All 8 children are on the census)


There are no births registered for a Marian or Joan Flitcroft, with MMN Parry after 1911

Even looking at Flitcroft births registered between 1910/1911.........there are no Marian and Joan twins born in that time frame.

Yes correct marriage malyon & PricklyHolly

Prickly Holly
You could be right about Arnold Lord never occured it might have been something to do with him.

I was told how true .... that John and Ada had twin girls Marian and Joan but no luck trying to find them so im assuming they were born after 1910 as they had a brother William born that year

Manchester born

As Arnold Lord is a widower on the 1939 Register........the 2 closed records might be 2 of his children.

Is this John W Flitcroft's marriage....

??

John William Flitcroft in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: John William Flitcroft
Registration Year: 1888
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Salford
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 146
Records on Page:
Name
John William Flitcroft
Ada Parry

If so........when and where were Marian and Joan born?

Flitcroft ..... children of John and Ada