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Chris were you asking me how I found them in fmp for 1861?
That was the initial problem, I couldn't find them. PricklyHolly kindly found them on Ancestry and using the numbers Piece: 290 Folio: 39 Page Number: 53 I entered these and only these details in fmp.
This brings up just 1 entry for Rachel Simmons I then viewed her image which then shows the whole page including The Hambergers.
I haven't got a clue what they are transcribed as in fmp if they are at all.
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Elisabetha Hahnenberger in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Elisabetha Hahnenberger
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 15 Dec 1861
Baptism Place: White Chapel, Middlesex, England
Father: Heinrich Hahnenberger
Mother: Catharina Longwaker
Germany, Select Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898
Name Heinrich Hanenberger
Gender Male
Birth Date 11 Jul 1857
Birth Place Hefersweiler,Pfalz,Bavaria
Father Heinrich Hanenberger
Mother Catharina Langwasser
FHL Film Number 415843
Household Members
Name Age
Heinrich Hanenberger
Catharina Langwasser
Heinrich Hanenberger
Germany, Select Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898
Name Johannes Hanenberger
Gender Male
Birth Date 08 Feb 1864
Birth Place Berzweiler,Pfalz,Bavaria
Father Heinrich Hanenberger
Mother Catharina Langwasser
FHL Film Number 415684
Household Members
Name Age
Johannes Hanenberger
Catharina Langwasser
Heinrich Hanenberger
Germany, Select Marriages, 1558-1929
Name Heinrich Hanenberger
Gender Male
Marriage Date 30 Jan 1856
Marriage Place Berzweiler, Pfalz, Bavaria
Spouse Catharina Langwasser
FHL Film Number 415685
Household Members
Name Age
Catharina Langwasser
Heinrich Hanenberger
I am not having any luck with the 1871 census.
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saw below...
Chris :)
http://www.census1891.com/viewhouse.php?sid=235&did=5042
Katharina Hanenberger H Wi 51 F Bavaria, Platinab
Peter Hanenberger So S 21 M Fur Dresser Ed London, Whitechapel
Edits (not sure how you found them on FMP 1861, below brings them up on there, then go back 1 image)
Edmund (Born) 1861 1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Hamlet Mile End Old Town, Mile End Old Town, London, England
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Thanks for the replies. The actual family I am looking for are called Hanenberger
This is them in 1881
6 Leman Street, Red Lion Yard, London
HEAD HENRY HANENBERGER 51 FUR SKIN DYER BORN GERMANY,
wife Catherine 47 born Germany,
daughter Elizabeth Hanenberger 19 born Middlesex, unemployed domestic servant,
son John Hanenberger 17 born Germany cabinet maker,
son Peter Hanenberger 12 born Middlesex,
daughter Margaret Hanenberger 9 born Middlesex,
son Fredy Hanenberger 6 born Middlesex.
I cannot find them in 1871, the original post querying 1861 census was for me to confirm or rule that family out. Which I still cannot do.
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One of the problems is that I do not believe they do appear later.
(Sorry posted same time as above post)
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It's probably the best transcription you'll get.
The H at the beginning of the name is the same as the one in Head.
There is a feint upward stroke for the b.
The r's are the same as in Catherine. Similarly the e's.
Don't get too hung up on the spelling if it changes later on; they're often spelt phonetically if the family is illiterate. In this case, the enumerator might have had to cope with a strong accent or someone who couldn't speak English.
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Thanks that is them.
I have now found them in findmypast by using the piece/folio/page number, not sure what they are transcribed under.
Did you look at the image? In your opinion does the surname actually say Hamberger? To me it is so unclear.
John
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Henry Hamberger in the 1861 England Census
Name: Henry Hamberger
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: 1826
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Catherine Hamberger
Gender: Male
Where born: Germany
Civil Parish: Mile End Old Town
Ecclesiastical parish: St Philip
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
View image
Registration district: Mile End Old Town
Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town Western
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 315
Piece: 290
Folio: 39
Page Number: 53
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Hamberger 35
Catherine Hamberger 27
Henry Hamberger 3
Catherine Hamberger 1
Julius Kusher 18
Theodore Kusher 15
Jacob Degen 19
Jacob Haverman 14
Henrich Modes 14
Jacob Amman 15
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Hello
I have the details of a search I found in Ancestry some 10 years ago on the 1861 census but stupidly I did not write down the piece / folio / page number etc.
Now when trying to find the family in Findmypast I cannot.
Can somebody look them up in Ancestry and let me know the details, so that I can then find them in Findmypast.
The family are:
Living 2 New Street, Mile End Old Town, Whitechapel. He is a musician?
Henry Hamberger abt 1826 Germany Head
Catherine Hamberger abt 1834 Germany Wife
Henry Hamberger abt 1858 Germany Son
Catherine Hamberger abt 1860 Germany Daughter
Thank you
John
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