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I have not been able to find the death of Andrew English born 13/4/1853 Fulham London, born Great Milton Oxfordshire.
Married Alice Deabill on 20/4/1876 Battersea London
I have found him on the following Census
1861 at Deadmans Lane Fulham
1871 at Deadmans Lane Fulham
1881 at 17 Serffs Tce Lane staying with Jane Parry
1891 cannot find
1901 cannot find
1911 at Nazareth House Hammersmith age slightly out but place of birth Great Milton, Oxfordshire correct
Any ideas please Thanks Mike.

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Deaths Jun 1921 (>99%)
English Andrew 72 Poplar 1c 372

1911 census age would fit with death info posted by safc. Says married, so is Alice still alive?

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

First name(s) Andrew
Last name English
Relationship Lodger
Marital status Married
Sex Male
Occupation General Labourer
Age 62
Birth year 1849
Birth place Oxford Great Milton
Address Hammersmith Road
Parish Hammersmith
County London
Country England
Archive reference RG14
Registration district Fulham
Registration district number 3
Enumeration district 43
District number 43
Sub district South Hammersmith
Sub district number 2
Census reference RG14PN266 RD3 SD2 ED43 SN1
RG78 code number 8
Piece number 266

Although he married in 1876, the 1881 census says he's unmarried - though of course census info isn't foolproof.

Where was he actually born - your OP says Fulham and Oxfordshire?
Is this who you think is him -

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
ENGLISH, ANDREW BROWN
GRO Reference: 1853 J Quarter in KENSINGTON PADDINGTON AND FULHAM Volume 01A Page 109

1881 had him as single

Are you sure you've been following the same Andrew throughout?

The marriage record to Alice says his father is Thomas:

Alice Deabill
in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Alice Deabill
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Age: 19
Spouse: Andrew English
Spouse Age: 23
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 20 Apr 1876
Parish: St Mary, Battersea
Borough: Wandsworth
Father Name: Thomas Deabill
Spouse Father: Thomas English
Register Type: Parish Register


BUT the 1861 & 1871 censuses at Deadman's Lane say that Andrew's father was Richard:


Andrew English
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Andrew English
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: 1854
Relation: Son
Father's name: Richard English
Mother's name: Eliza English
Gender: Male
Where born: Fulham, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Fulham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Fulham
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 11
Piece: 27
Folio: 4
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard English 50
Eliza English 45
Richard English 15
Caroline English 103
Alfred English 11
Andrew English 7


Perhaps Richard's son is this Andrew ??

Andrew English
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Andrew English
Registration Year: 1853
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Kensington
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 109


In fact, I can't see the birth of an Andrew English in Oxfordshire 1850-60. How do you know "your" Andrew was born there?

Father Richard b Great Milton

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Matyears Cottage, Deadmans Lane, Fulham, Kensington, London, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Richard English Head Married Male 50 1811 Market Garden Labourer Great Milton, Oxfordshire, England Transcription
Eliza English Wife Married Female 45 1816 - Oxfordshire, England
Richard English Son Unmarried Male 15 1846 Gardener Fulham, Middlesex, England
Caroline English Daughter Unmarried Female 13 1848 Scholar Fulham, Middlesex, England
Alfred English Son - Male 11 1850 Scholar Fulham, Middlesex, England
Andrew English Son - Male 7 1854 Scholar Fulham, Middlesex, England

Looks to be Richard and Eliza's marriage

West Middlesex Marriage Index Transcription

First name(s) RICHARD
Last name ENGLISH
Marriage year 1836
Marriage day 16
Marriage month Apr
Place CHELSEA
Groom's first name(s) Richard
Groom's last name ENGLISH
Bride's first name(s) Eliza
Bride's last name BROWN
County Middlesex

1881 - Alice is with her parents in Battersea, while Andrew (if it's the right Andrew) is lodging in Fulham, listed as single:

Alice English
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Alice English
[Alice Deabill]
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1859
Relationship to Head: Daughter
Father: Thomas Deabill
Mother: Eliza Deabill
Gender: Female
Where born: Fulham, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Battersea
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: East Side 23 Bridge Rd
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: Wandsworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 44
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 647
Folio: 45
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Deabill 48
Eliza Deabill 56
Alice English 22 - married

1891 - Thomas Deabill and Grandson:


Alfred A English
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Alfred A English
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1879
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Fulham, London, England
Civil Parish: Paddington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrews
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Registration district: Paddington
Sub registration district: St Mary Paddington
ED, institution, or vessel: 35
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 10
Folio: 110
Page Number: 41
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Deabill 58
Alfred A English 12

ENGLISH, ALFRED ANDREW DABILL Order
GRO Reference: 1879 M Quarter in FULHAM Volume 01A Page 283

ENGLISH, ELIZA DEABILL Order
GRO Reference: 1876 D Quarter in FULHAM Volume 01A Page 258

So where is Alfred Andrew in 1881 ??


Alfred Andrew English
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Alfred Andrew English
Registration Year: 1879
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Fulham
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 283

1851 - This is very coincidental - a Richard English born c 1811 in the Fulham area and a Garden Labourer . Doesn't say whether married. Maybe Ireland was just dittoed wrongly?

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Loding House, Parsons Green, Fulham, Kensington, Middlesex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Mechen Head Married Male 45 1806 Garden Labourer Ireland
Mary Mechen Wife Married Female 40 1811 - Ireland
John Mechen Son - Male 2 1849 - England
Margaret Mechen Daughter - Female 10 1841 - England
Danil Murphy Lodger Married Male 50 1801 Garden Labourer Ireland
Bridget Murphy Daughter - Female 12 1839 - Ireland
Darley Cain Lodger Married Male 35 1816 Garden Labourer Ireland
Ball Cain Wife - Female 30 1821 Garden Labourer Ireland
Ball Cain Son - Male 5 1846 - England
Mary Cain Wife Married Female 27 1824 - Ireland
Margaret Cain Wife Married Female 30 1821 - Ireland
Thrin Curtin Lodger Married Male 24 1827 - Ireland
Norny Curtin Wife Married Female 35 1816 Garden Labourer Ireland
Norny Curtin Lodger Married Female 34 1817 - Ireland Transcription
Edmond Curtin Son - Male 7 1844 - -
Mary Curtin Daughter - Female 5 1846 - -
Richard English Lodger - Male 40 1811 Garden Labourer Ireland
James English Son - Male 16 1835 - Ireland
James English Lodger - Male 17 1834 - Ireland xxxxxxx

xxxxxx - this James not on original

Richard down as an Ag. Lab.

EDIT - VERY coincidental. See later post. Richard and Eliza together in 1851 in Fulham

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
High Street, Fulham Middlesex, Kensington, Middlesex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Richard English Head Married Male 46 1805 Labourer Great Milton, Oxon, England
Eliza English Wife Married Female 40 1811 Green Grocer Chalgrove, Oxon, England
Mary Anne English Daughter Unmarried Female 12 1839 Scholar Fulham, Middlesex, England
Eliza English Daughter Unmarried Female 8 1843 Scholar Fulham, Middlesex, England
Richard English Son - Male 6 1845 Scholar Fulham, Middlesex, England
Caroline English Daughter - Female 3 1848 - Fulham, Middlesex, England
Alfred English Son - Male 2 1849 -

England Marriages 1538-1973 Transcription
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First name(s) Andrew
Last name English
Name note -
Age 23
Marriage year 1876
Marriage date 20 Apr 1876
Marriage place Battersea
Father's first name(s) Morris
Father's last name English
Spouse's first name(s) Alice
Spouse's last name Deabill
Spouse's birth year 1857
Spouse's birth date 1857
Spouse's father's first name(s) Thomas
Spouse's father's last name Deabill
Residence Battersea, Surrey, England
County Surrey
Country England
Record set England Marriages 1538-1973
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain

Andrew & Alice's son Alfred Andrew joined the Oxfordshire Light Infantry:

Alfred English
in the British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920
Name: Alfred English
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1879
Birth Place: Fulham, Middlesex
Age: 19
Document Year: 1898
Regimental Number: 5945
Regiment Name: Oxfords Light Infantry
Form Title: Short Service Attestation
Number of Images: 5
Family Members:
Name Relation to Soldier
Alfred English Self (Head)
Eliza English Sister (Address unknown)

There's a note re a refund of purchase money (in 1916) on re-enlistment of Pte A A English, to Mrs English, 75 Cathnor Road, Shepherds Bush.

Wife? Mother?


EDIT:

Probably wife:

Marriages Dec 1903 (>99%)
ENGLISH Alfred Andrew Fulham 1a 706
Holland Abigail Fulham 1a 706
Johnstone Mountague Cholmeley Fulham 1a 706
Parrott Sarah Ann Chelsea 1a 706
TOWLER Bessie Fulham 1a 706

Bessie Towler is the wife.


Alfred English
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Alfred English
Age in 1911: 32
Estimated birth year: abt 1879
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Ham [Fulham on image]
Civil Parish: Hammersmith
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 75 Cathnor Road, Shepherds Bush, W
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 8
Estimated Marriage Year: 1903
Occupation: CONTRACTORS CARMAN BUILDER
Registration district: Fulham
Registration District Number: 3
Sub-registration district: North Hammersmith
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Piece: 211
Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred English 32
Bessie English 24
Bessie English 7
Ivy English 5
Joseph English 2
Frederick English 0

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Purcell Crescent, Fulham, London, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Baxter Head Married Male 59 1832 Carman Fulham, Middlesex, England
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Elizabeth S Baxter Wife Married Female 58 1833 - Fulham, Middlesex, England
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Edgar V Baxter Son - Male 14 1877 - Fulham, Middlesex, England
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Albert J Baxter Son - Male 11 1880 - Fulham, Middlesex, England
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Sidney C H Baxter Son - Male 9 1882 - Fulham, Middlesex, England
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Reginal F Baxter Son - Male 16 1875 - Fulham, Middlesex, England
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Eliza English Niece Single Female 14 1877 - Fulham, Middlesex, England