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Bernhard F Hermann in the UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Bernhard F Hermann
Birth Date: abt 1877
Age: 14
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 2 May 1891
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Umbria
Official Number: 91159

Ferdinaud Hermann Banker 45
Sara Hermann Wife 35
Bernhard F Hermann Student 14
Leodra?? Hermann 10
Beatrice Hermann 4

There are quite a few passenger lists for Bernard

Bernard F Hermann in the UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Bernard F Hermann
Birth Date: abt 1877
Age: 47
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 1 Sep 1924
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ship Name: Aquitania
Shipping line: Cunard Steamship Company Ltd
Official Number: 135583

Bernard F Hermann Banking 47
Constance L Harmann Housewife 59


Bernard F Herman in the UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Bernard F Herman
Birth Date: abt 1877
Age: 55
Port of Departure: Batavia, Indonesia
Arrival Date: 11 Apr 1932
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ship Name: Christiaan Huygens
Shipping line: Nederland Royal Mail Line

Bernard F Herman 55
Constance L Herman 46
Eric Ferd Herman 17

Constance L Hermann in the UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Constance L Hermann
Birth Date: abt 1884
Age: 35
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 2 Oct 1919
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Orduna
Shipping line: Cunard Steamship Company Ltd
Official Number: 135539

Constance L Hermann Housewife 35

Constance is also in that tree. What info do you have on her? She appears to have travelled backwards and forwards to the US.

This is a summary of her life:

When Constance Louisa Wihl was born on 13 August 1884 in Lancashire, Lancashire, her father, Gustav, was 41, and her mother, Sara, was 33. She married Bernard Frederic Herman in January 1910. They had two children during their marriage. She died on 8 January 1968 in Los Angeles, California, USA, at the age of 83.

Birth of Son
Her son Frederick Gustav was born in 1912 in New York, USA

Constance L Herman in the UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Constance L Herman
Birth Date: abt 1885
Age: 35
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 5 Jul 1920
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Caronia
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Shipping line: Cunard Steamship Company Ltd
Official Number: 120826

Constance Herman Housewife 35
Frederick G Herman Child 8
Eric F Herman Child 5

Bernard Herman on the 1939 Register

Household (1 Person) Grand Hotel , Eastbourne C.B., Sussex, England

Bernard Herman Visitor 07 Mar 1877 Male Banking Employ ( Wall N York Head Of Cable Department (Retired) Married 1 176
Constance Herman Visitor 13 Aug 1884 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 1 177
Eric Herman Visitor 22 Feb 1915 Male Student (American) Single 1 178

Potty,

At this moment in time I would only wish to find details on a Constance L Wihl who married a Mr Bernhard Hermann in 1910.

I do not know what happened to them after this wedding.(even the 1911 or 1939 register.


Also thanks Chris Ho for your info too

Wihl, Gertrude. Born September 6, 1881, at Manchester.

B.A. (2nd class Modern Languages), 1905. M.A., 1906.
Married, July 12, 1906, Francis William Jordan.

Grey Gables, Warwick Drive, Hale, Cheshire.

https://tinyurl.com/gv5svgo

(items coming up on google search)

Chris :)

Marriages Dec 1939 (>99%)
Dale Philip M Jordan Hampstead 1a 2114
Jordan Elaine E Dale Hampstead 1a 2114

Elaine E Dale (Jordan) on the 1939 Register

Household (2 People) 13 Lawn Road , Hampstead, London, England

Elaine E Dale (Jordan) 16 (26 on the image) Nov 1907 Female Factory Canteen Supervisor Single 43 2
Phillip M Dale 28 Oct 1907 Male Cost Accountant Single 43 3


Elaine Emma Dale in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Elaine Emma Dale
Birth Date: 26 Nov 1907
Date of Registration: Jun 2002
Age at Death: 94
Registration district: east Surrey
Inferred County: Surrey
Register Number: ESA3
District and Subdistrict: 7551A
Entry Number: 114

A tree on Ancestry has the Wihl family, going back a couple of generations. Do you have access or would you like some details?

Thanking you both for finding me this Info.

Yes this is the right couple. Bonus info for me too.


Nala.

Francis W Jordan on the 1939 Register

Jordan Household (4 People) The Lodge Chest Lane,Dorking , Dorking U.D., Surrey, England

Francis W Jordan 12 Jan 1871 Male Shipping Merchant Retire Married 43 1
Gertrude Jordan 06 Sep 1881 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 43 2
Marjorie G Jordan 17 May 1909 Female Veterinary Surgon Single 43 3
Emily (R) Johnson 26 May 1903 Female Domestic Duties Single 43 4

Do you have this? Parents born Germany, children born Withington, Lancs.

Gertrude Wihl

in the 1901 England Census
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Name: Gertrude Wihl
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1882
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Father: Gustav Wihl
Mother: Sara Wihl
Birth Place: Withington, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Withington
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Ecclesiastical parish: Whalley Range St Edmund
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Didsbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3672
Folio: 18
Page Number: 28
Household schedule number: 147
Household Members:
Name Age
Gustav Wihl 57
Sara Wihl 49
Gertrude Wihl 19
Erie S Wihl 18
Constance L Wihl 16
Henry S Wihl 15
Henrietta H Wihl 5
Mary A Munton 33
Jane Walley 60
Francis Coghlan 19
Annie Coghlan 22

FMP version.....

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Grey Gables Warwick Drive Hale, Hale, Cheshire, England

Francis W Jordan Head Married Male Shipping Merchant 40 1871 Hale Cheshire
Transcription
Gertrude Jordan Wife Married Female - 39 1872 Manchester Lancs
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Elaine E Jordan Daughter Married Female - 3 1908 Cheshire Hale
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Marjorie G Jordan Daughter - Female - 1 1910 Cheshire Hale
Transcription
Isabel Sutherland Servant Single Female Nurse Domestic 31 1880 Midlothian Edinburgh Resident
Transcription
Florence Peckham Servant Single Female Cook General Domestic 22 1889 Norfolk Oulton

JORDAN, ELAINE EMMA WIHL
GRO Reference: 1907 D Quarter in BUCKLOW Volume 08A Page 166

So the above 1911 would be correct.

Possible?

Gertrude Jordan

in the 1911 England Census
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Name: Gertrude Jordan
Age in 1911: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1882
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Hale
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County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street address: Grey Gables Warwick Drive, Hale, Cheshire
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: Bucklow
Registration District Number: 445
Sub-registration district: Altrincham
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Piece: 21547
Household Members:
Name Age
Francis W Jordan 40
Gertrude Jordan 29
Elaine E Jordan 3
Marjorie G Jordan 1
Isabel Sutherland 31
Florence Peckham 22

Married 4 years, 2 children born both living. Last 2 names are servants.
Father & children born Hale, mother born Manchester.