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Hi
Thank you all for your help .
Joyce Smith was my auntie
James Smith was my grate grandfather
Mary Jane was my grate grandmother
Thank you all again for your help.
Peter

I can't see Willie's death in the UK.

There's a death of a Willie C Griffin born July 1919, in Mississippi, USA, but that one was born and lived in Mississippi.

Perhaps he's still alive, or died just in the last few years, which aren't online yet..

Willie seems not to be showing as he was born after 1915,although he will have passed on by now his record in 1939 hasnt been requested to be opened.

They are slowly getting to open closed records it may take some time.!


Also if he was in the forces in 1939 he wont show.


This is Joyce Smith& family 1939 from the marriage above by PH.


165 High Street , Chesterfield R.D., Derbyshire, England
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FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB OCCUPATION
Joyce Griffin (Smith) 08 May 1910 Unpaid Domestic Duties
James Smith 12 Aug 1867 Coal Miner (Stallman) Retired
Mary J Smith 19 Nov 1872 Unpaid Domestic Duties

I am not seeing a Willie C Griffin Born 1919 Chesterfield on the 1939 Register.

Perhaps he is a "Closed Record"?

Willie C Griffin in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1916-2005
Name: Willie C Griffin
Mother's Maiden Surname: Griffin
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1919
Registration district: Chesterfield
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire, Derbyshire
Volume Number: 7b
Page Number: 1304

Who was Willie's mother?

Snap Prickles :-)

Here's Phyllis

Moore (Thore) Household (4 People)
14 Armstead Road , Chesterfield R.D., Derbyshire, England
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FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER
Phyllis Smith (Thorpe) 27 Nov 1926 Female At School Single 167 4
Gertie Moore (Thore) 19 Nov 1896 Female School Cleaner Widowed 167 1
Walter Thorpe 25 Feb 1920 Male Labourer-Steel Rolling Heavy Worker Single 167 2
Ivy Mozley (Thorpe) 10 Nov 1921 Female Domestic Servant Single 167 3

Kenneth Hudson on the 1939 Register

Smith Household (4 People) 155 High Street , Chesterfield R.D., Derbyshire, England

Kenneth Hudson 10 Jan 1920 Male Coal Miner Filler Single 268 3
Alonzo Smith 14 Oct 1897 Male Coal Miner Stallman Married 268 1
Mabel A Smith 19 Nov 1900 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 268 2
Herbert A Smith 04 Nov 1921 Male Colliery Wages Clerk Single 268 4

(So it was this Herbert A Smith who married Phyllis Thorpe in 1949)

Births Dec 1921 (>99%)
Smith Herbert A Hudson Chesterfield 7b 1468

Marriages Sep 1920 (>99%)
Hudson Mabel A Smith Chesterfield 7b 2249
Hudson Mabel A Swift Chesterfield 7b 2249
Smith Alonzo Hudson Chesterfield 7b 2249


Births Mar 1920 (>99%)
Hudson Kenneth Hudson Chesterfield 7b 1908



Kenneth Hudson in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Kenneth Hudson
Birth Date: 10 Jan 1920
Date of Registration: Dec 1981
Age at Death: 61
Registration district: Chesterfield
Inferred County: Derbyshire
Volume: 6
Page: 0485

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Kenneth Hudson in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Kenneth Hudson
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1947
Registration district: Chesterfield
Inferred County: Derbyshire
Spouse: Joyce M Turner
Volume Number: 3a
Page Number: 459

Phyllis Smith (Thorpe) on the 1939 Register

Moore (Thore) Household (4 People) 14 Armstead Road , Chesterfield R.D., Derbyshire, England

Phyllis Smith (Thorpe) 27 Nov 1926 Female At School Single 167 4
Gertie Moore (Thore) 19 Nov 1896 Female School Cleaner Widowed 167 1
Walter Thorpe 25 Feb 1920 Male Labourer-Steel Rolling Heavy Worker Single 167 2
Ivy Mozley (Thorpe) 10 Nov 1921 Female Domestic Servant Single 167 3


Marriages Dec 1949 (>99%)
Smith Herbert A Thorpe Chesterfield 3a 221
Thorpe Phyllis Smith Chesterfield 3a 221


Phyllis Smith in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Phyllis Smith
Birth Date: 27 Nov 1926
Date of Registration: Sep 1985
Age at Death: 58
Registration district: Sheffield
Inferred County: Yorkshire
Volume: 3
Page: 1729


Herbert Arnold Smith in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Herbert Arnold Smith
Birth Date: 4 Nov 1921
Date of Registration: Feb 1999
Age at Death: 77
Registration district: Sheffield
Inferred County: Yorkshire
Register Number: E86A
District and Subdistrict: 0481E
Entry Number: 43

Hi Kay
Phyllis Thorpe
Born. 1926
Married Herbert Arnold Smith 1949

Kenneth Hudson
Born 1920 Chesterfield

Willie C Griffin
Born 1919 Chesterfield

Thanks
Peter

Ask away Peter.

Hi all
Does any have access to the 1939 register to do a few look ups please.
Regards
Peter