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Henry and Hannah Jackson

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Tawny

Tawny Report 8 Mar 2017 23:40

I am looking for two different people but as they are a married couple I've posted the two requests together.

Henry (1844) and Hannah(1834) married in 1867 in Hull and I have them on all the census records from 1871 onwards.

Henry is from Glanford Brigg, South Ferriby, Lincolnshire and Hannah is from Yorkshire.

On the 1871 census I have Henry and Hannah living with their son Charles Henry (1869) in the house of the Matthews family. Both Henry and Hannah are given as brother/sister in law. When Hannah married Henry she used the name Hannah Matthews.

This would suggest to me that Hannah's marriage to Henry may have been her second. What do others think? Can anyone find Hannah's first marriage as without her maiden name I cannot go back further.

My second query relates to Henry as I cannot find him on a census prior to 1871. Can anyone find Henry on the 1851 or 61 census?

safc

safc Report 8 Mar 2017 23:50




Hannah Matthews
mentioned in the record of Henry Jackson and Hannah Matthews
Name Henry Jackson
Birth Date 1845
Age 22
Spouse's Name Hannah Matthews
Spouse's Birth Date 1841
Spouse's Age 26
Event Date 07 Oct 1867
Event Place Holy Trinity Church, Hull, York, England
Father's Name William Jackson
Spouse's Father's Name Michael Matthews
Marital Status Single
Spouse's Marital Status Single
Citing this Record

"England Marriages, 1538–1973 ," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NN37-G6F : 10 December 2014), Henry Jackson and Hannah Matthews, 07 Oct 1867; citing Holy Trinity Church, Hull, York, England, reference p. 231 no. 461; FHL

safc

safc Report 8 Mar 2017 23:53


England Marriages 1538-1973 Transcription
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First name(s) Henry
Last name Jackson
Name note -
Age 22
Marriage year 1867
Marriage date 07 Oct 1867
Marriage place Hull
Father's first name(s) William
Father's last name Jackson
Spouse's first name(s) Hannah
Spouse's last name Matthews
Spouse's birth year 1841
Spouse's birth date 1841
Spouse's father's first name(s) Michael
Spouse's father's last name Matthews
Residence Hull, York, England
County Yorkshire
Country England
Record set England Marriages 1538-1973
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain

Tawny

Tawny Report 8 Mar 2017 23:55

Thank you for finding Henry and Hannah's marriage record and for showing Hannah had never previously been married.

safc

safc Report 8 Mar 2017 23:59

tawny

1st post from family search

2nd post from find my past

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 9 Mar 2017 00:04

Do you believe this to be the birth reg of Charles Henry Jackson?

Charles Henry Jackson
Registration Year: 1870
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Glanford Brigg
Inferred County: Lincolnshire
Volume: 7a
Page: 687

To confuse matters, the free search on GRO gives a different maiden name

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
JACKSON, CHARLES HENRY FIRTH
GRO Reference: 1870 M Quarter in GLANFORD BRIGG Volume 07A Page 687

1871 census
Charles H Jackson
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Relation: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: South Ferriby, Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: Saxby
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Registration district: Glanford Brigg
Sub-registration district: Barton
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Household schedule number: 48
Piece: 3438
Folio: 92
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
James Matthews 55
Sarah Matthews 46
Charles Matthews 12
John M Matthews 10
James T Matthews 9
Joshua Matthews 7
Henry Jackson 27
Hannah Jackson 36
Charles H Jackson 1

Tawny

Tawny Report 9 Mar 2017 00:08

That is the birth that appeared most likely for Charles Henry though I will need to order the cert to confirm. A different mothers maiden name does throw a spanner in though and adds to the confusion

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 9 Mar 2017 00:12

Back tracking James Matthews

James Matthews
Age: 47
Estimated birth year: 1814
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Matthews
Gender: Male
Where born: Saxby, Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: Saxby
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Street address:
Condition as to marriage:
Registration district: Glanford Brigg
Sub-registration district: Barton
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 53
Piece: 2404
Folio: 90
Page Number: 14

James Matthews 47
Sarah Matthews 36
Geo Matthews 11
Wm M Matthews 9
Hanh Matthews 7
M E Matthews 5
Chas Matthews 3
Jas M Matthews 1
Martin Firth 32 < son in law
Elizabeth Firth 31
Chas Firth 9
Florence Firth 3

Have you picked up the 'wrong' 1871 or is something really peculiar going on?

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 9 Mar 2017 00:19

Going forward to 1881 for Henry Jackson & Hannah - they appear to have a daughter Jane Hannah Jackson

Jane H. Jackson
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Relationship to Head: Daughter
Father: Henry Jackson
Mother: Hannah Jackson
Gender: Female
Where born: Saxby Bridge, Lincoln, England
Civil Parish: South Ferriby
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Street address: Sluice Road

Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Glanford Brigg
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3291
Folio: 91
Page Number: 32

Henry Jackson 36
Hannah Jackson 42
Charles H. Jackson 11
Jane H. Jackson 9

Her birth
Jane Hannah Jackson
Registration Year: 1872
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Glanford Brigg
Inferred County: Lincolnshire
Volume: 7a
Page: 690

GRO free search version
JACKSON, JANE HANNAH FIRTH
GRO Reference: 1872 M Quarter in GLANFORD BRIGG Volume 07A Page 690

Tawny

Tawny Report 9 Mar 2017 00:24

That is the family on the 1881 census. The most likely explanation is that I found the wrong census record in 1871.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 9 Mar 2017 00:30

Hang on, you could still be right.

Could this be James Matthew's first marriage?

James Matthews
Registration Year: 1849
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Doncaster
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 22
Page: 69

William Tissington
Rachel Elliott
Martha Firth
Martin Firth <<< Son in law?
Sarah Firth <<< Sarah his wife?
Elizabeth Matthews
James Matthews <<<<
Mary Anne Mabel Pollard
Thomas Thompson
Mary Tunningley
Mary Tunninley

Too tired to sort it out, but suspect there was a meld of 2 families going on.

Tawny

Tawny Report 9 Mar 2017 00:36

Thank you for finding the information. It looks like I've got a lot of digging to do to try and straighten it out.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 9 Mar 2017 00:38

Charles Firth 1852, the son of Martin Firth and Elizabeth as listed in the Matthews household in 1861

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
FIRTH, CHARLES MATTHEWS
GRO Reference: 1851 D Quarter in GLANFORD BRIGG Volume 14 Page 361

The same marriage ref as James Matthews and Sarah Firth has Martin Firth and also an Elizabeth Matthews!

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 9 Mar 2017 00:43

England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1988 (Ancestry, no image)

Elizabeth Matthews
Gender: Female
Age: 19
Birth Date: abt 1830
Marriage Date: 13 Feb 1849
Marriage Place: Warmsworth, Yorkshire, England
Father: James Matthews
Spouse: Martin Firth

Tawny

Tawny Report 9 Mar 2017 00:47

Thank you for that. It looks like the family possibly intermarried.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 9 Mar 2017 07:23

Baptism
County Lincolnshire
Place South Ferriby
Church name St Nicholas
Register type Unspecified
Register entry number 224
Baptism date 27 Feb 1870
Person forename Charles Henry
Person sex M
Person abode South Ferriby
Father forename Henry
Father surname JACKSON
Father occupation Labourer
Mother forename Hannah
Register note Andrew Veitch Rector


Baptism
County Lincolnshire
Place Saxby All Saints
Church name All Saints
Register type Unspecified
Register entry number 469
Baptism date 09 Mar 1872
Birth date 13 Feb 1872
Person forename Jane Hannah
Person sex F
Person abode South Ferriby
Father forename Henry
Father surname JACKSON
Father occupation Sailor
Mother forename Hannah

https://www.freereg.org.uk/

(from above, if anything else there)

Chris :)

http://www.yorkshirebmd.org.uk/index.php

(useful, Hull area)

Dea

Dea Report 9 Mar 2017 08:50


I think this is Henry on 1861 ??

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Goxhill Skittle, Goxhill, Glanford Brigg, Lincolnshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Jackson Head Married Male 41 1820 Brick And Tile Maker Barton, Lincolnshire, England
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Jane Jackson Wife Married Female 43 1818 - Lincolnshire, England
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Fanny Jackson Daughter Unmarried Female 19 1842 - Barton, Lincolnshire, England
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***Henry Jackson Son Unmarried Male 16 1845 - Barton, Lincolnshire, England
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William Jackson Son - Male 12 1849 - Balne, Yorkshire, England (Balne is in Yorkshire, near Doncaster??)
Transcription
Thos Jackson Son - Male 11 1850 - Goxhill, Lincolnshire, England



JACKSON, FANNY QUICKFALL Order
GRO Reference: 1841 D Quarter in THE GLANFORD BRIGG UNION Volume 14 Page 323

JACKSON, HENRY QUICKFALL Order
GRO Reference: 1844 D Quarter in THE GLANFORD BRIGG UNION Volume 14 Page 327



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1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Goxhill Skittle, Goxhill, Glanford Brigg, Lincolnshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Jackson Head Married Male 29 1832 Brickmaker Lincolnshire, England (birth looks like Kesingham which is near Hull !)
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Henrietta Jackson Wife Married Female 27 1834 - Paull, Lincolnshire, England (Paull is near Hull ?? !!!)
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Mary Ann Jackson Daughter - Female 7 1854 - East Butterwick, Lincolnshire, England
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Lewis Jackson Son - Male 3 1858 - East Butterwick, Lincolnshire, England
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Betsy Jackson Daughter - Female 2 1859 - East Butterwick, Lincolnshire, England


Marriages Sep 1853 (>99%) (includes Paull )
JACKSON William Patrington 9d 347 Scan available - click to view
WALKER Henrietta Patrington 9d 347 Scan available - click to view

JACKSON, BETTSEY WALKER Order
GRO Reference: 1859 M Quarter in PATRINGTON Volume 09D Page 217

JACKSON, LEWIS WALKER Order
GRO Reference: 1857 J Quarter in PATRINGTON Volume 09D Page 209


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Dea

Dea Report 9 Mar 2017 09:07


1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Goxhill Brickyard, Goxhill, Glanford Brigg, Lincolnshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Jackson Head Married Male 31 1820 Tile Maker Barton, Lincolnshire, England
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Jane Jackson Wife Married Female 33 1818 - Lincolnshire, England
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Christiana Jackson Daughter Unmarried Female 11 1840 - Barton, Lincolnshire, England
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Fanny Jackson Daughter - Female 9 1842 - Barton, Lincolnshire, England
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***Henry Jackson Son - Male 6 1845 - Barton, Lincolnshire, England
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William Jackson Son - Male 3 1848 - -
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Tom Jackson Son - Male 1 1850 - Goxhill, Lincolnshire, England

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Dea

Dea Report 9 Mar 2017 09:11


1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Union Brickyard, Barton St Peter, Glanford Brigg, Lincolnshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
William Jackson Male 20 1821 Lincolnshire, England
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Jane Jackson Female 20 1821 Lincolnshire, England
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Christiana Jackson Female 1 1840 Lincolnshire, England
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William Parsons Male 25 1816 Lincolnshire, England
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Richd Parsons Male 20 1821 Lincolnshire, England


NB
Isreal Jackson (25) and Margaret (30) on same page !!! - next door with Eliza aged 2.

???
JACKSON, ELIZA JOHNSON Order
GRO Reference: 1838 D Quarter in THE GLANFORD BRIGG UNION Volume 14 Page 316

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Tawny

Tawny Report 9 Mar 2017 16:08

Thank you for finding Henry on the census records and the baptism records for his children.