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Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 14 Mar 2017 15:17

ps,im so happy , :-)

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 14 Mar 2017 14:51

sorry,iv just got back,had go out again, so that was an error,thankyou so much glasgowlass and chris,i couldnt see any new zealand records or incoming passenger records, so it was an error after all.. i cant thank you enough for all yr help, i can now finish them off properly, thankyou so much xx :-)

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 14 Mar 2017 13:37

Yes Chris, I found the Will FamilySearch but the link to it came from Archway

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 14 Mar 2017 12:18

Curd Chas 1840 — 1906 Passenger Lists Leaving Uk 1890-1960 Wellington, New Zealand (Find My Past)

(strangely GL on above I think, now looks same on below!)

UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 for Chas Curd (Ancestry)

Chris :)

https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/

(his Probate also on above)

Purewa Cemetery Burials Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) Charles
Last name Curd
Age 66
Occupation Retired Builder
Birth year 1841
Birth place Shoreham,Sussex,England
Last residence Western Springs Rd, Morningside
Death year 1907
Possible cause of death heart failure
Undertaker name G Meachem
Burial date 24 May 1907
Grave contents Body
Burial number 3526
Area D
Row 020
Plot 030
Country New Zealand
Record set Purewa Cemetery Burials

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 14 Mar 2017 12:15

Where did Jacqueline find an emigration doc stating that she was 34yrs old and what Will says that Charles Curd left his entire estate to just 2 of his 10 children?

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 14 Mar 2017 12:04

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-61G9-WY8?mode=g&i=71&cc=1609792

(New Zealand, Archives New Zealand, Passenger Lists, 1839-1973)

Above image has her as 64.


(another)

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-61G9-WCG?mode=g&i=50&cc=1609792

Chris :)

(and below 1906 arrival of 'Athenic' with them)

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH19061112.2.15?query=athenic curd

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 14 Mar 2017 11:53

Yes Chris, its definitely the same Florence Mary

The marriage was in November 1911 after she appears with her mother in Morningside.

This girl married at St Enoch's Presbyterian Church in "Morningside"

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 14 Mar 2017 11:43

(Marriage reference)

1911/7874 Florence Mary Curd William Gigg

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/search

Chris :)

Births

1912/18363 Gigg Jessamine Alberta Florence May William

1915/19420 Gigg Muriel Florence Florence Mary William


Death
1958/23524 Gigg Florence Mary 71Y

(her Probate on below)

https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 14 Mar 2017 11:16

Also, Jane wife of Charles Curd did go to New Zealand.

1911:
Finch Street, Morningside, Grey Lynn, Auckland.

Jane Curd (widow) and unmarried daughter Florence Mary were both in this household

It's the only Electoral Roll that she seems to be on.
If Jane died in the UK, the it means she returned after 1911
( ER may have been compiled in 1910)

I think that Jane's age on the 1906 emigration data will be an error and should read age 64yrs.
34yr old wife is a red herring

EDIT:
68yr old Jane Curd arrived back in the UK from NZ on 16 Apr 1913.
She travelled aboard the RMS Ramuera from Wellington to London

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 14 Mar 2017 09:54

i have to take the dog out as she is getting impatient but il be back in about hour and a half,thankyou everyone i appreciate the help jackie

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 14 Mar 2017 09:52

that is 2 of his sons that remained in shoreham,there was also 3 more daughters that stayed behind

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 14 Mar 2017 09:47

no thats not her ,she was born ,depending on census,horley,surrey ,1842,she had 15 children,i havent found her in 1911 ,she wwas living in shoreham sussex from 1871 and died there in 1922 ,im guessing she is still there in 1911 or that is her that went nz and they got the age wrong, i don t know,lol,

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 14 Mar 2017 09:44

Jacqueline,
This man died in Auckland, NZ in 1907
Have you obtained a copy of this will to clarify that he left everything to his 2 sons or are you assuming based on his Probate index?


England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995

CURD, Charles of Estcourt, Gordon-road, Shoreham, Sussex, died 21 May 1907 at New Windsor Road, Avondale, Auckland, New Zealand.
Probate London, 6 Mar (1908) to Ernest Harry Curd and Willliam Charles Curd Builders
Effects: £1313 12s and 2d

You will find it here .

All 5 sons named as Executors.
His wife was named as Jane Curd who was the primary beneficiary and after her death, the estate would be divided among his 10 children.


https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9BC-Z9GZ-4?i=149&cc=1865481

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 14 Mar 2017 09:37

1901 census
Jane Curd
Age: 53
Estimated birth year: abt 1848
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Spouse: James Curd
Birth Place: Brighton, Sussex, England
Civil Parish: Brighton
Search Photos: Search for 'Brighton' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Ecclesiastical parish: Brighton All Souls
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: Brighton
Sub-registration district: East Brighton
ED, institution, or vessel: 34
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 926
Folio: 100
Page Number: 43
Household schedule number: 305
Household Members:
Name Age
James Curd 54
Jane Curd 53
Henry Charles Curd 15
Benjamin Albert Curd 13

So according to that census he was born c1848

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 14 Mar 2017 09:35

Is this Jane. She states she is a widow


Name: Jane Curd
Age in 1911: 62
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Relation to Head: Sister
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Brighton, Sussex
Civil Parish: Brighton
Search Photos: Search for 'Brighton' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street address: 24 Paradise Street Brighton
Marital Status: Widowed
Occupation: Charwoman
Registration district: Brighton
Registration District Number: 79
Sub-registration district: East Brighton
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Household schedule number: 269

Married 43 years 9 children born 7 still living. Has been crossed through as she is a widow
Piece: 5110
Household Members:
Name Age
Eliza Williams 59
Jane Curd 62

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 14 Mar 2017 09:35

yes chris,thankyou,thats his youngest child that went out after him,,3 sons albert,sidney,george and married daughter emiline underwood and her family also went. .but as far as i know his wife jane stayed here as well as the remaining children. thats ok,lol,i have to take the dog out now as well,thank you for finding that for me its realy helped as confirmed florences marriage for me and gave me details i didnt have which is brilliant. jackie

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 14 Mar 2017 09:22

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/HAST19111122.2.27?query=charles curd

(does above relate anywhere?, apologies for not staying, but must be going now!)

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/

Chris :)

Marked As Answer Marked as Answered

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 14 Mar 2017 09:06

hi,i have a charles curd born 1840 shoreham sussex,went to new zealand 1906,i have his ships passage details.gives his age 66, says with his wife age 34,but no wifes name,his wife was jane and she was 64.....would they have made such an error? or has he remarried and i havent found it?he died in new zealand 21/9/1907 and i have jane died 1922 back in shoreham,can anyone find the mystery "wife" for me? im guessing he and jane had split as he left everything to his sons,i have everything i need on him except who this woman was who wetn to new zealand with him,id be realy grateful if anyone can help,i dont have axcess to nz records and have googled everything i can think off for 4 days and has got me nowhere jackie