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dea thank you

She was born 6th September but you have 6 weeks in which to register the birth and so she was registered sometime between Oct and Dec which would put the birth reg in the 4th quarter.

Dea x

a bit puzzled with the birth of Florence in 1939 reg says her birth is 6th sept 1911
the birth Austin added says birth 4th quarter which is oct-dec

thank you for posting that. I can see it must be the correct one

Malyon- I'm pretty certain all the facts Dea has posted, including the 1939 register are relevant to your Florence. I'm just posting the 1939 register that Dea found, but transcribing it from the original so your can see it clearer.

Blue Boar Inn, 63 Watton, Brecon M.B., Breconshire, Wales

George Hargest 21st November 1881, Manager of Inn, Married
Margaret L Hargest 17th May 1885, Licensee, Married
Closed Record
Florence M Lacey 6th September 1911, Unpaid domestic duties, Married
Reginald V Lacey 28th (or 20th) September 1929, At school, Single
Closed Record
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Fits with this birth:
First name(s) FLORENCE M
Last name PRICE
Birth year 1911
Birth quarter 4
Mother's last name Workman
District Brecknock
County Breconshire
Country Wales
Volume 11B Page 123

thank you dea i'm not sure when Florence changed Vernon's name to lacey Patrick was away in the army cant remember them being togeather must have separated soon after marriage I have no one alive to ask

could this be her birth
Births Sep 1912  
Price
 Florence M
 Price
 Bedwellty
 11a
150

Florence's parents lived only a few doors away from that 1939 address in 1911??

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
55 Watton Brecon South Wales, St Mary, Breconshire, Wales

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Thomas Edward Price Head Married Male Groom 40 1871 Brookes Montgomeryshire
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Kate Price Wife Married Female - 38 1873 Sunderland
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Charles Edward Price Son - Male School 10 1901 Breconshire Breconshire (10 yrs 6 mths)
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John Leonard Price Son - Male School 7 1904 York Yorkshire (7 yrs 8 mths)
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Frederick Abraham Price Son - Male School 5 1906 Brecon Breconshire (5 yrs 6 mths)
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Albert Ernest Price Son - Male - 2 1909 Brecon Breconshire

Dea x

NB - Florence was not yet born.

Dea x

Do you not think that the one I posted on the 1939 is 'your' Florence Malyon?

Dea x

thank you I saw that marriage if I remember I think there was 2 or 3 daughters in 1958
perhaps Florence used the name Dorothy we knew her as aunty dot I did not know she was Florence till I done my family tree by looking at Patrick lacey's marriage I wonder if she stayed with my aunt georgina French in 1939 in Chelsea

This is his marriage:


Marriages Mar 1955 (>99%)
ADAMS Violet C J LACEY Chelsea 5c 716
ADAMS Violet C J PRICE Chelsea 5c 716
LACEY Reginald V ADAMS Chelsea 5c 716
PRICE Reginald V ADAMS Chelsea 5c 716

There is a little girl born the following year and it looks as though he then moved areas and there are some more births (can't post as they are probably still living).

Dea x

Vernon was brought up by Florence's mother not sure if he was Reginald Vernon I think he married a woman called Vicky saw him when his mother was ill in 1958 had children with him little girls that's the last I saw of him

Death for 'Vernon' :

Name: Reginald Vernon Lacey
Birth Date: 28 Sep 1929
Date of Registration: Jul 1999
Age at Death: 69
Registration district: Lambeth
Inferred County: London
Register Number: E58
District and Subdistrict: 2411E
Entry Number: 8

Dea x

Margaret's death shows the surname 'Hargest'


Name: Margaret Lilian Hargest
Birth Date: 17 May 1885
Date of Registration: Dec 1979
Age at Death: 94
Registration district: Brecknock
Inferred County: Powys
Volume: 26
Page: 0028

Dea x

NB - I can't see any family connection.....

Dea x

That looks to be right Austin - I thought the 1st word could be 'Blue' (terrible writing though).

Can you make out their surnames?

Dea x

Nice work Dea.

Think the pub was the Blue Boar-

http://www.coflein.gov.uk/en/site/16429/details/the-blue-boar-63-the-watton-brecon

1939:
Now, we have a bit of a mix-up here:

Firstly the address is 63 Watton and there seems to be a Pub name which is not readable.

Thomas Griffiths is not with them, he is in the house next door.

Margaret Hangest? has another person of the same name above her as Manager of Inn but I can't read his first name (ends in 'nge'?) He was born 21st Nov. 1881.

Florence M's surname is LACEY !!

Frorence M is under Mr & Mrs Hangest? and under her is Reginald V ( who is shown in a different household on his own). - under them is a closed record which may well be Patricia?

Griffiths Household (3 People) 52 Watton , Brecon M.B., Breconshire, Wales
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Occupation
Florence M Lally 06 Sep 1911 Unpaid Domestic Duties
Thomas Griffiths 09 Jun 1905 Master Baker
Margaret L Hangest 17 May 1885 Licensee



Lacey Household (1 Person) , Brecon M.B., Breconshire, Wales
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Occupation
Reginald V Lacey 28 Sep 1929 At School

This would fit well with the birth posted by ArgyllGran above............

Births Dec 1929 (>99%)
PRICE Reginald V Price Brecknock 11b 103



Dea x

thank you for your help
I knew Vernon so that was his name. I think perhaps Florence may have had the fathers name on birth cert of Vernon the story was that Florence changed vernons surname to lacey when Patrick her husband was away in the army he was furious and that's why they got a divorce

not sure if Vernon was born in wales
Births Dec 1929   (>99%)

PRICE
 Reginald V
 Price
 Brecknock
 11b
103

Patricia was both born and married in Kensington reg district.

You would think at age 2 she would have been with her mother in 1939, but I don't see either of them anywhere.

I don't see the birth of a Vernon Price with mms Price in the right time-frame.
Are you sure the name was Vernon?
There's the birth of a Vivian in Brecknock reg district in 1926.

EDIT:
No she would only have been c 14 in 1926.

Alternatively there's a Reginald V Price born Brecknock in 1929 - maybe the V is for Vernon??
Where in Wales was Florence born?
There are two or three possible births in Wales c 1912.

Florence had a daughter in 1937 patricia she also had a son before she married Patrick name of Vernon I think she was only 16 yrs old when he was born

she was born in 1912 this is her death

Deaths Sep 1958   (>99%)

LACEY
 Florence M
 46
 Chelsea

she lived in redburn street Chelsea