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I spotted that one as well, but she did not have a birth middle name Mary. Pat told me she died within 18 months of her mother (Nov 1990). Pat's memories suggest a very long shot. Pat did look a little put out when I asked if Elizabeth's husband was Ernest so she is still switched on. It is an option because her brother was born James Moore but was known as Frederick James Moore and on his death certificate. So they both may have gained middle name as a Confirmation names. All her siblings were adopted/looked after by a Granddad & Grandma Evans! living with the Woodward's at 11 Fisher Road, Oldbury in 1940s but can't find them as well! assume they were with them 1939-1945.

This is the Arthur from the 1946 marriage:

17 Kingarth Street , Cardiff C.B., Glamorganshire, Wales
Arthur Roberts 15 Dec 1891 Male Steel Works Labourer Widowed
Alfred Roberts 04 Apr 1921 Male Roll Driver Rolling Mill Single
Leonard Roberts 27 Apr 1924 Male Errand Boy Single
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First wife was Margaret Heard- they married 1919 Neath.
Two sons (listed on the 1939 above) born to them.

It's a day out but wondered if this could be her death (there are no Elizabeth M Roberts b 10th May 1914 on the 1939 register):

First name(s) ELIZABETH MARY
Last name ROBERTS
Gender Female
Birth day 10
Birth month 5
Birth year 1914
Death quarter 3
Death year 1994
District South Glamorgan
District number 8901A
Register number A20A
Entry number 047
Date of registration mm/yy 0794
County Glamorganshire

You asked if being a Jehovah's Witness would stop you being able to find a death record.
No the religion has nothing to do with bmds as theses are a legal requirement so would be registered .
How a funeral was later conducted is nothing to do with registration

Hmm. ok Andy.

There is a link somewhere, we just need to try and figure it out. :-S

1946 Witnesses L.T.John & L.M.Broom. Elizabeth had brothers James, Joseph & sister Harriet. Harriet was married to Percy Woodward so no link to family circle.

Who were the witnesses at the 1946 marriage for Elizabeth Moore to Arthur Roberts in Cardiff?

Iv'e Googled bus driver badge and the memories are coming back but those badges were circular. So not sure what Ernest is. But remember getting my ticket from the clippie and jumping on at the open back entrance grabbing the tall pole. Happy Days

Just to add to the faces. Picture of Ernest & Elizabeth taken yesterday. He does have an unusual badge on his jacket. I need a specialist in buses, but I remember as a kid on the buses in Birmingham the Bus staff used to have metal badges.

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/keepsafe/asset/details/48693889

I have the 1946 wedding certificate in front of me. Some facts link up but others don't. Elizabeth is 32, Shop assistant Laundry at 152 Mackintosh Place, Cardiff, father Frederick Moore (not Ernest). Husband Arthur 48 Widower, Engine Cleaner (Steel Works). 17 Kingarth Street, Cardiff, father Harry Roberts Police Inspector North Riding Police Force. I double checked with Pat yesterday and she was sure Elizabeth's husband was Ernest. I also thought she may have mixed them up. If they worked on the buses why separate professions and different addresses.

just looked again does look like this elizabeth moore remarried 14-2 58

Safc..........looking at the image of the 1939 Register, does it look to you as though Elizabeth remarried 14/02/1958??

I can't make out the Surname though.

also the (M) for elizabeth moore is wrote in green ink

Yes.........on the 1939 register that Safc posted, it gives the date of her marraige to Roberts as...

09/07/1946

Marriages Sep 1946 (>99%)
Glassock Sidney Goodwin Cardiff 8b 407
Goodwin Alice M Glassock Cardiff 8b 407
Moore Elizabeth Roberts Cardiff 8b 407
Roberts Arthur Moore Cardiff 8b 407

Hmm, ok.

I have the 1944 wedding certificate in front of me Elizabeth Moore 46 years old, father Edward Beads. She was a widow!

Safc thank you but Elizabeth's birth certificate did not have a middle name just Elizabeth Moore the record you have posted does it have an associated year of record of residence. As Pat was going to visit Elizabeth in Cardiff just before her death cannot figure a link to Midlands & Wales except the exact birth date.

Have you considered this marriage......

??

Marriages Jun 1944 (>99%)
MOORE Elizabeth Roberts W.Bromwich 6b 1599
ROBERTS Arthur Moore W.Bromwich 6b 1599

MOORE, ELIZABETH MMN HOOD
GRO Reference: 1914 J Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 06B Page 1806