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Doris and Irene Carter

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David_Carter

David_Carter Report 5 Apr 2017 09:24

Brilliant - Thank you so much for your efforts AQ :-)

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 5 Apr 2017 08:30

I thought they were cutting it a bit fine with the dates of the marriage and squeezing two other daughters in before Irene's birth! Stella was born before the marriage:

Family name: YOUNG
Given names: Stella May Carter
Sex: Female
Father's name: Unknown
Mother's name: Isabella (Young)
Place of birth HOTHAM EAST
Registration year :1908

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 5 Apr 2017 07:11

The engagement notice for George in the 'The Age' Melbourne 29th December 1943 was to Marjorie Elsworthy:

Engagements Announced
ELSWORTHY— CARTER.— Marjorle Fin
ney, youngest daughter of Petty Officer and
Mrs. A E. Elsworthy, 8 Llddlard-street.
Glenferrle. to George Arthur, youngest son
of Mr. and Mrs. A. L. Carter. 57 Bal
moral-avenue. Pascoe Vale South.
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I don't know if the marriage took place, but it is definitely your George as Rose and her husband Thomas Hiscock were living at 57 Balmoral Avenue on the Victoria Electoral Register in 1946.
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George was the youngest son, so his birth won't be online. This small article states he was 13 in 1935 making his birth around 1922:

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. ) Mon 5 Aug 1935
George Carter, aged 13 years, of West
Beach road, St. Kilda, was struck by a
motor-car at the corner of Dandenong road i
and Tooronga road, East Malvern. He was
treated by the Alfred Hospital for lacera-
tions on the head and shock.
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Perhaps Doris was a little younger than you thought and perhaps why her birth doesn't appear online either? Sister, Irene didn't pass away until 2003, if Doris also lived a long life her death wont be online.
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Marriage for son Lawrence:

First name(s) Lawrence David
Last name Carter
Sex Male
Marriage year 1937
Spouse's first name(s) Marj Alice Eileen
Spouse's Last Name Campbell
State Victoria
Country Australia

His death:
name(s) Lawrence David Carter
Age 71
Sex Male
Birth year 1914
Death year 1985
Father's name Arthur Lawrenc
Mother's name Isabel Daisy
Death place Oakl
State Victoria
Registration number 25129

David_Carter

David_Carter Report 5 Apr 2017 04:10

I think I have ordered a copy of the probate through PROV.
Only time will tell if I have been successful.
Thanks again.

David_Carter

David_Carter Report 5 Apr 2017 02:52

I believe the first daughter was Stella, the second Rose and the third Irene.
How do I access the will of my Grandfather Arthur Laurence?

David_Carter

David_Carter Report 4 Apr 2017 23:04

AustinQ wrote: "There is an article in 1943 of an engagement of George Arthur Carter- youngest son of Mr & Mrs A L Carter. "

I was only 6 when my family left Victoria for the Gold Coast, so my recollections aren't perfect.

I knew I had an uncle George (Married Lillian) but that is another record I can't find.

Very strange; perhaps both Doris and George were adopted but they both certainly had a strong family resemblance.

Thank you all for your assistance.
Regards, David

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 4 Apr 2017 16:36

Ann, that looks like the reference to Probate already posted above.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 4 Apr 2017 15:23

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Name Arthur L Carter
Occupation Gentleman
Death Date 28 May 1973
Event Place Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Residence City Oak Park
Event Date 07 Aug 1973
Series Number 756
Record Number 834

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 4 Apr 2017 11:20

Arthur and Daisy married in 1909.
When daughter Irene married in 1937 she was described as the 3rd daughter of Arthur and Daisy- although I only see one sister born before her. Her sister Rose was bridesmaid, and her brother Lawrence was groomsman. There was no mention of Doris.

First name(s) Rose Kathleen
Last name Carter
Sex Female
Birth year 1910
Birth place Hotham East
Father's name Arthur Lawrence
Mother's name Daisy Isabel Young
Registration number 28148
State Victoria

First name(s) Irene Daisy
Last name Carter
Sex Female
Birth year 1912
Birth place Hotham West
Father's name Arthur Lawrence
Mother's name Daisy Isobell Young
Registration number 21320
State Victoria

First name(s) Lawrence David
Last name Carter
Sex Male
Birth year 1913
Birth place Melbourne West
Father's name Arthur Lawrence
Mother's name Daisy Isabel Young
Registration number 33292
State Victoria
Record set Victoria Births

There is an article in 1943 of an engagement of George Arthur Carter- youngest son of Mr & Mrs A L Carter.

Is Doris mentioned in her father's will?
Victoria Wills & Probate
name(s) Arthur L Carter
Sex Male
Occupation Gentleman
Residence Oak Park
Resident state Victoria
Death date 28 May 1973
Grant date 07 Aug 1973
Nature of grant P
File number 756/834
Order link VPRS 28/P6, unit 398;<
State Victoria

When and where did Doris marry?

David_Carter

David_Carter Report 4 Apr 2017 07:10

Hi Patchem,
Valerie Bryan has been able to give me the death info on Irene, but I have no idea why Doris' birth info is not available.

patchem

patchem Report 4 Apr 2017 06:31

Is the information that you want online, or restricted by security?

Quote:

'What's in the Historical index?
The Historical index has entries relating to:

births in Victoria from 1853 to 1916
marriages in Victoria from 1853 to 1942'

David_Carter

David_Carter Report 4 Apr 2017 05:12

Hello, I am trying to find information on my aunties.

Birth and death: Doris Walker nee Carter born c.1914 Melbourne m. Robert Walker. Father Arthur Lawrence Carter, mother Daisy Isabel Young

Death: Irene Daisy Ellis nee Carter born 1912 Hotham West, Victoria m. Frank Rowe Ellis. Same parents as Doris.

I am almost positive they would have lived most of their lives in Victoria, but Vic BDM gives only birth record of Irene and no results at all for Doris.

Regards,
David Carter