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Doris/Frank Lavery

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RogerL

RogerL Report 10 May 2017 06:14

Thanks for the explanation of the NHS register.
Gwyn, thanks for the input. Nothing else known. My understanding is that the brother made contact when visiting the UK but Frank did not want any contact.

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 9 May 2017 23:20

The USA brother was somehow able to find Frank.

Do you know if he wrote to Frank or communicated in some other way?

Did Frank reply.? How did he refer to the person in America? Did he give no name?

Was there an address book entry perhaps?

Did he chat to friends / neighbours about the contact?

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 9 May 2017 22:43

Doris' Birth
Births Dec 1914 (>99%)
Lavery Doris McLellan S. Shields 10a 1849

Marriage

DORIS
Last name LAVERY
Marriage quarter 1 <<<< Register up dated in April
Marriage year 1950
Spouse's last name Lewry
District Watford
County Hertfordshire
Country England
Volume 4B
Page 514

And Death

DORIS
Last name LEWRY
Gender Female
Birth day 18
Birth month 11
Birth year 1914
Death quarter 4
Death year 1995
District Watford
District number 5361A
Register number A39D
Entry number 122
Date of registration mm/yy 1295
County Hertfordshire
Country England

You'll note the dob on the Death reg matches the one on the 1939 Register

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 9 May 2017 22:29

Copying down, Doris Lavery's entry on the 1939 Register

Doris Lewry (Lavery)
DOB 18 Nov 1914
SEX Female
OCCUPATION Barmaid
MARITAL STATUS Single
SCHEDULE 263
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 7

As you know that Doris married Mr Lewry, the entry makes perfect sense. The name in brackets, in this case Lavery, is the name she used when the register was compiled. The name outside the brackets - Lewry- is the name she used when she died.

The 1939 register formed the basis of the NHS system & numbers and was a working document, updated until 1991 when paper-based record-keeping was discontinued.. The image on which Doris's name is listed was updated to Lewry on 29 Apr 1950. That was presumably within a couple of months of her marriage.
Unless Frank told you that he was fostered out or lived with a different relative while Doris was working, its possible that the Closed record after Doris is him.

None of which helps identify the previously unknown brother.

RogerL

RogerL Report 9 May 2017 21:04

Thanks for all the input, Frank born 1933, Not sure about the 1939 register info as Doris married in 1950 to become Lewry. All trees on Ancestry known to me and I am in contact with all Franks's family.
Roger.

Rambling

Rambling Report 9 May 2017 18:21

I assume you're aware of the other trees on Ancestry with Doris, one being your own I guess, is the private tree owner known to you?

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 9 May 2017 17:39

No other births showing in Brighton for Lavery with mmn Lavery.

His mother in 1939?

1939 REGISTER TRANSCRIPTION
Plaine Household (4 People)
64 Chailey Road , Brighton C.B., Sussex, England

Doris Lewry (Lavery)
DOB 18 Nov 1914
SEX Female
OCCUPATION Barmaid
MARITAL STATUS Single
SCHEDULE 263
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 7

1 closed record here

Walter Plaine
DOB 12 Jun 1898
SEX Male
OCCUPATION Stoker (Sr) Heavy Worker
MARITAL STATUS Married
SCHEDULE 263
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 1

Lucy Wells (Plaine)
DOB 07 Nov 1901
SEX Female
OCCUPATION Unpaid Domestic Duties
MARITAL STATUS Married
SCHEDULE 263
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 2

2 closed records here

Gladys I Roseman (Plaine)
DOB 18 Mar 1930
SEX Female
OCCUPATION At School
MARITAL STATUS Single
SCHEDULE 263
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 5

1 closed record here


Ref: RG101/2438C/013/18 Letter Code: EGBX
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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 9 May 2017 17:37

According to Roger's tree, Frank was born in 1933.

Births Mar 1933 (>99%)
Lavery Frank Lavery Brighton 2b 253

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 9 May 2017 17:29

When was Frank born please? Have you looked on Freebmd?

RogerL

RogerL Report 9 May 2017 15:03

My cousin Frank Lavery was contacted by his brother prior to his death . His brother had been adopted and moved to the USA. He was searching for family. Frank was born in Brighton and lived most of his life in Coggeshall, Essex. His mother was Doris Lavery. We have no idea what his brother's name is now.
Thanks, Roger.