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Hi can anyone help with identifying which of two marriages in 1933 Mansfield both for Ernest, lists his father as James. One to Albina Marsh and the other to Freda R Wright. I need to have the correct children as there is a request for help in identifying a WW1 death whose remains need a DNA comparison to give a positive I'd for him.. many thanks to anyone who can help...

This could be the death of the Ernest born 1902

Name: Ernest Sunderland
Birth Date: abt 1902
Date of Registration: Dec 1964
Age at Death: 62
Registration district: Mansfield
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire
Volume: 3c
Page: 170


and this is the probate record

Name: Ernest Sunderland
Death Date: 17 Dec 1964
Death Place: Nottinghamshire, Nottingham, England
Probate Date: 17 Dec 1965
Registry: Nottingham, England

of 27 Coke Street, Mansfield

granted to William Sunderland.

and this could be his birth

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Mar 1933
Sunderland William Marsh Mansfield 7b 126


and his parents marriage

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1931 (>99%)
Marsh Albina Sunderland Mansfield 7b 229
Sunderland Ernest Marsh Mansfield 7b 229


Would need to be checked with the relevant certs.

Andy

Thanks Andy...I am hoping this is the right one but still need verification if anyone has access to marriage details for Ernest x 2 marriages....

1939
27 Cross Street , Mansfield Woodhouse U.D., Nottinghamshire, England

First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Ernest Sunderland 07 Feb 1902 Male Coal Mine Packer Below Ground Heavy Worker Married 175 1
Albina Sunderland 30 Apr 1907 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 175 2
William Sunderland 14 Mar 1933 Male At School Single 175 3

think this is freda
1939
48 Cavendish Street,Shirebrook , Blackwell R.D., Derbyshire, England

First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Freda R Sunderland 11 Feb 1909 Female Unpaid Domestic Married 174 2
Ernest Sunderland 09 Feb 1904 Male Coal Hewer Below Married 174 1
Flora Reeves (Sunderland) 14 Sep 1932 Female At School Single 174 3
Thomas Batty (Sunderland) 20 May 1880 Male Railway Good Guard Single 174 6

FLORA
Last name SUNDERLAND
Birth year 1932
Birth quarter 4
Registration month -
Mother's last name Wright
District Mansfield
County Nottinghamshire
Country England
Volume 7B
Page 115

FREDA ROSE
Last name SUNDERLAND
Gender Female
Birth day 11
Birth month 2
Birth year 1909
Age -
Death quarter 3
Death year 1994
District Mansfield
District number 6871B
Register number B11D
Entry number 143
Date of registration mm/yy 0994

FREDA ROSE
Last name WRIGHT
Birth year 1909
Birth quarter 1
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District Mansfield
County Nottinghamshire
Country England
Volume 7B
Page 93


First name(s) ERNEST
Last name SUNDERLAND
Gender Male
Birth day 9
Birth month 2
Birth year 1904
Age -
Death quarter 2
Death year 1984
District Mansfield
Register number 684
County Nottinghamshire
Volume 8
Page 329
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
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1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
12 Gas Hill Pleasley Nottinghamshire, Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
James Sunderland Head Married Male Miner 36 1875 Ripley Derbyshire
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Rose Sunderland Wife Married Female - 32 1879 Ripley Derbyshire
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Harriett Sunderland Daughter - Female - 10 1901 Ripley Derbyshire
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Ernest Sunderland Son - Male - 9 1902 Pleasley Notts
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John Sunderland Son - Male - 6 1905 Pleasley Notts
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James Sunderland Son - Male - 5 1906 Pleasley Notts
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Edward Sunderland Son - Male - 2 1909 Pleasley Notts
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Lucy Sunderland Daughter - Female - 1 1910 Pleasley Nottingham

Marriage:


Marriages Sep 1900
Bates Rose Belper 7b 1139
Sunderland James Belper 7b 1139

Birth reg: (surname mistranscribed??)

SANDERLAND, ERNEST Mothers maiden name BATES
GRO Reference: 1902 M Quarter in MANSFIELD Volume 07B Page 147

fits in with birth of 7th Feb 1902 as for the above 1939 register with wife Albina

Thank you so much everyone..the Ernest we needed it to be married Albina Marsh.. and was born 1902 and died 1964..couldn't have done it without you all helping. Let's hope the family members will give a DNA sample so William Albert Sunderland 1887-1914 can be positively identified and remembered...

SUNDERLAND, WILLIAM ALBERT

Rank:
Private
Service No:
7429
Date of Death:
25/10/1914
Age:
28
Regiment/Service:
York and Lancaster Regiment
 
2nd Bn.
Panel Reference:
Panel 8.
Memorial:
PLOEGSTEERT MEMORIAL

Additional Information:
Husband of Rachel Mee (formerly Sunderland), of Far Laund, Belper,

William Abert Sunderland
England and Wales Marriage Registration Index
Name
William Abert Sunderland
Event Type
Marriage
Registration Quarter
Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year
1909
Registration District
Belper
County
Derbyshire
Event Place
Belper, Derbyshire, England
Volume
7B
Page
1250
Line Number
323
 
William Abert Sunderland probably married one of the following people
Name
Curtis Brown
Name
Rachel Harby
Name
Rachael Harly
Name
Rachel Harly
Name
Harriet Gertrude Wilkinson

William Albert Sunderland
England and Wales Census, 1911
Name
William Albert Sunderland
Event Type
Census
Event Date
1911
County
Derbyshire
Parish
Heage
Sub-District
Ripley
Registration District
Belper
Gender
Male
Age
24
Birthplace
Ripley Derbys

Births Dec 1886   (>99%)

SUNDERLAND
 William Albert
 
 Belper
 7b
600

SUNDERLAND, WILLIAM ALBERT CLARKE Order
GRO Reference: 1886 D Quarter in BELPER Volume 07B Page 600

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Booth Gate Heage Near Belper, Heage, Derbyshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
William Albert Sunderland Head Married Male Black Smith Striker 24 1887 Ripley Derbys
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Rachel Sunderland Wife Married Female Embroidress 23 1888 Belper Derbys
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Olivia Sunderland Daughter - Female - 1 1910 Lower Hantshay Ripley

Marriages Jun 1920 (>99%)
Mee George W Sunderland Belper 7b 2151
Roulson George Dooley Belper 7b 2151
Sunderland Rachel Mee Belper 7b 2151

Mee Household (2 People) 159 Far Laund , Belper U.D., Derbyshire, England
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Rachel Mee 10 Aug 1887 Female Unpaid Domestic Duti Married 158 2
George Mee 25 Sep 1890 Male Public Work Labourer Heavy Worker Married 158 1