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Now I am looking for the death of his wife Frances/Fanny Winterhalden. It will be post 1881 because she's in that census with two of their children.

Bright eyes on this one, please.
:-)

Deaths Mar 1895   (>99%)

Winterholder
 Fanny
 68
 Whitechapel
 1c
227

sorry don't think it was the above because
Name: Fanny Winterhalder
Spouse: William Winterhalder
Birth: abt 1827 - Clerkenwell, London, England
Residence: London, St Martin in the Fields, London

Name: Fanny Winterhalder
Death: 7 Feb 1895 - Stepney White Chapel, England
Vital: 7 Feb 1895

still could be her reading the post ZACCHEUS was also called William

Yes, thank you both and this is looking very good.
:-D

sorry I put ambrose instead of ZACCHEUS was doing another thread with ambrose

I think the death found is of this Fanny that I already posted.


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Drury Lane, St Martin in the Fields, Strand, London, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Winterhalder Head Married Male 69 1822 Clock Maker London, Middlesex, England
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Fanny Winterhalder Wife Married Female 64 1827 - London, Middlesex, England
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Charles Winterhalder Grandson - Male 7 1884 Scholar London, Middlesex, England


EDIT No this is a different man. With his father, Augustin and brothers in 1851. They are all clockmakers born in Germany?

Nicola have you seen this tree on the familysearch website? If not it might be worth looking at

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:2:3HKZ-7G5

Sorry I think I may have mislead everyone. The 1891 posted above does seem to be them, so that would make the death found for Fanny very possible.

After seeing what appears to be the correct census in 1861 for them, naming Zaccheus as William it is possible.

The 1851 I found for William is this one. All brothers not father and sons.


1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Bishopsgate Street, Saint Botolph Bishopsgate, East London (City of London), London, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Augustin Winterhalder Head Unmarried Male 34 1817 Clock Maker Germany
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>>William Winterhalder Brother Unmarried Male 32 1819 Clock Maker Germany
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Andrew Winterhalder Brother Unmarried Male 30 1821 Clock Maker Germany
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Hoddal Winterhalder Brother Unmarried Male 28 1823 Clock Maker Germany
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Othman Winterhalder Brother Unmarried Male 34 1817 Clock Maker Germany
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Bannefoe Schwel Servant Unmarried Male 21 1830 Clock Maker Germany
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Paul Straub Servant Unmarried Male 26 1825 Clock Maker Germany
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John Dparmle Servant Unmarried Male 40 1811 Clock Maker Germany



and Zaccheus in 1851. There are others on the record that I have not posted as they are not family.

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Shouldham Street, Saint Marylebone, Marylebone, London, England



>>Zacharias Winterholder Head Married Male 23 1828 Clock Maker Germany
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Frances Winterholder Wife Married Female 23 1828 - Kent, England
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Emily T Winterholder Daughter - Female 0 1851 - Middlesex, England
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Thank you very much to Tiggit. That is very interesting.

I am doing this research on behalf of a friend and she is SO GRATEFUL.

:-D

Re the Family Tree by Betty on the LDS website: is it possible to contact the tree maker via the website??

I can't find any method of doing this.

Thank you.

His DC has arrived and there was an inquest into the circumstances surrounding his death.
His address at the time of death was 272 Whitechapel Road, East [London]. He died on 18th April 1895 in the Sick Asylum, Cleveland Street, Pancras district, London.

The inquest was held on 20th April, the coroner was George Danford Thomas.

Can someone see the newspaper report on the inquest, please?
:-)

Sorry, been looking for it but not seeing anything. :-( :-S

Thank you so far ............
Standing by!
:-)

The only thing I'm finding for that date is reports of a well dressed man being found cut in half in a railway tunnel. No name is given.

I don't know London at all but Cleveland Street seems to be near Portland Station. I assume Portland Station would be near to where the underground is now? I am probably way off here.

You say he died in the Sick Asylum, Cleveland Street, Pancras district, London so it can't possibly your man.



Other London Underground stations located near Cleveland Street include Great Portland Street (50m west) and Warren Street (350m east).


EDIT the tunnel was going towards Baker Street and the body was taken to Marylebone Mortuary, Paddington to await an inquest and identification.

Another report states he was about 32.

Cleveland Street Asylum registers of admission and discharge, 1875-1915 appear to be in the London Metropolitan Archives.

https://tinyurl.com/ya3p9yfx

I wonder if they would contain anything about reason for admission?

Just for ref have sent image of this

William Winterhalter
in the London, England, Selected Poor Law Removal and Settlement

April 25th 1893

Fanny Winterhalter 66
husband William Winterhalter 71

admitted 10th last December


Name: William Winterhalter
Age: 71
Birth Year: abt 1822
Record Type: Examinations
Event Date: 25 Apr 1893
Poor Law Union or Parish: Bethnal Green
Residence: Bethnal Green
Reference Number: BEBG/267/045

272 Whitechapel Road was the address of one of the Night Shelters established by the Salvation Army.

Thank you everyone for your sleuthing. Will be back to this in a coupla days. :-)

On behalf of my friend whose GGF is the wonderfully named ZACCHEUS WINTERHALDEN as above, we are still searching and hoping for a report of the inquest into his Accidental Death.

There are other family circumstances which may be revealed if we could only find this report. Since he died in London [see my post above for details of his address and also place of death], we are so hoping that it may have been reported in a London newspaper. Although having said that, my own illustrious ancestor's death and lengthy obituary was published in Scotland even though he died in Central London and was buried at Highgate Cemetery. So perhaps we should cast our search wider afield?? But I don't know how to go about that.

PLEASE could you have another look for this inquest report for us. And please bear in mind that the spelling of both his first name and surname have 'altered' over the years ...................

Thank you very much.