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Lma lookup please

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Rooter

Rooter Report 16 Jun 2017 16:31

Is any kind person able to lookup the baptism and burial records of St. Paul's church, bow common? I'd like the records of Lilian maud lightly. Born 26th Jan. 1879. Birth registered on 5th march 1879. Died shortly after (date unknown). Her parents were Georgina and George Edwin lightly. Many thanks for any help.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 16 Jun 2017 16:37

The death certificate would give you the exact date:-

First name(s) LILIAN MAUD
Last name LIGHTLY
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1879
Age 0
Death quarter 1
Death year 1879
District Stepney
County London
Volume 1C
Page 386
Country England

Kath. x

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 16 Jun 2017 16:57

Original doesn't give birthdate but says baptised privately which suggests that it was probably soon after birth and that she wasn't expected to live.


Lilian Maud Ligntlay in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Record Type:
Baptism
Baptism Date:
31 Jan 1879
Father's name:
George Edwin Ligntlay
Mother's name:
Georgina Ligntlay

Parish or Poor Law Union:
Bow Common St Paul

Borough:
Tower Hamlets

Register Type:
Parish Registers

malyon

malyon Report 16 Jun 2017 16:58

Marriages Sep 1878  
Lightly
 George Edwin
 
 Mile End
 1c
867
  
Newson
 Georgina
 
 Mile End

malyon

malyon Report 16 Jun 2017 17:00

Deaths Dec 1911   (>99%)

Lightly
 George E
 55
 W.Ham
 4a
224

malyon

malyon Report 16 Jun 2017 17:11

there was another child that died
Name:
Mother's Maiden Surname: 
 
LIGHTLY, GEORGINA    
NEWSON  

GRO Reference: 1884  J Quarter in MARYLEBONE  Volume 01A  Page 582


Deaths Sep 1884   (>99%)

LIGHTLY
 Georgina
 0
 West Ham
 4a
56

malyon

malyon Report 16 Jun 2017 17:15

did the mother georgina die giving birth to baby georgina born same quarter june

Deaths Jun 1884   (>99%)

Lightly
 Georgina
 25
 Marylebone
 1a
385
 

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 16 Jun 2017 17:15

She's only 15!


George Edwin Lightly
in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name:
George Edwin Lightly
Estimated birth year:
abt 1856
Age:
22

Spouse:
Georgina Newson
Spouse Age:
15

Event Date:
10 Aug 1878
Parish:
St Paul, Bow Common
Borough:
Tower Hamlets
Father Name:
James Lightly
Spouse Father:
Alfred Newson
Register Type:
Parish Register

malyon

malyon Report 16 Jun 2017 17:21

another child


Mother's Maiden Surname: 
 
LIGHTLY, HILDA  MAY  
NEWSON  

GRO Reference: 1883  M Quarter in MARYLEBONE  Volume 01A  Page 605

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 16 Jun 2017 17:36

George in 1891, remarried to Bertha?


George E Lightly
in the 1891 England Census
Name:
George E Lightly
Age:
35
Estimated birth year:
abt 1856
Relation:
Head
Spouse's Name:
Bertha Lightly
Gender:
Male
Where born:
Holyhead, Anglesey, Wales
Civil Parish:
East Ham
Ecclesiastical parish:
Forest Gate All Saints
County/Island:
Essex

Registration district:
West Ham

Household Members:

George E Lightly 35
Bertha Lightly 24
Gertrude E Lightly 10
Hilder M Lightly 8

malyon

malyon Report 16 Jun 2017 17:40

this looks like the family in 1871 georgina would have been about 25yrs in 1884

Alfred Newson
England and Wales Census, 1871
Name
Alfred Newson
Event Type
Census
Event Date
1871
Event Place
Mile End Old Town, London, Middlesex, England
Enumeration District
21
Gender
Male
Age
51
Marital Status
Married
Occupation
Carpenter
Relationship to Head of Household
Head
Birth Year (Estimated)
1820
Birthplace
Blaxhall, Suffolk
Entry Number
9
Affiliate Image Identifier
GBC/1871/0563/0064
Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
Alfred Newson
Head
M
51
Blaxhall, Suffolk
Mary A Newson
Wife
F
40
Hadleigh, Suffolk
Georgeanna Newson xxxxxxx
Daughter
F
12
Stepney, Middlesex
Mary A Newson
Daughter
F
10
Stratford, Essex
Allan Newson
Son
M
4
Stepney, Middlesex
Margaret Newson
Daughter
F
2
Stepney, Middlesex

malyon

malyon Report 16 Jun 2017 17:46

Births Mar 1859

NEWSON
 Georgiana
 
 Mile End

the age of 15yrs of georgina's marriage must be a mistake

Flip

Flip Report 16 Jun 2017 17:47

Gertrude's birth, from Margaret's 1891 census:

Name:Mother's Maiden Surname:

LIGHTLY, GERTRUDE ETHEL NEWSON Order
GRO Reference: 1881 M Quarter in MARYLEBONE Volume 01A Page 581

But you probably already have all this, just looking for the baptism/burial for the child you have posted about?

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 16 Jun 2017 17:56

I found the baptism but not the burial of the child, Lilian Maud. She was baptised 31 Jan. 1879 so possibly premature.

malyon

malyon Report 16 Jun 2017 18:31

George married bertha

Marriages Mar 1891  
Lightly
 George Edwin
 
 W. Ham
 4a
49
  
Stares
 Bertha
 
 W. Ham
 4a
49

malyon

malyon Report 16 Jun 2017 18:51

Name
George Lightly
Event Type
Census
Event Date
31 Mar 1901
Event Place
East Ham, Essex, England
County
Essex
Civil Parish
East Ham
Ecclesiastical Parish
All Saints Forest Gate
Sub-District
East Ham
Registration District
West Ham
Residence Note
Whitta Road
Gender
Male
Age
44
Occupation
SCHOOL TEACHER
Relationship to Head of Household
Head
Birth Year (Estimated)
1857
Birthplace
Holyhead, Anglesey
Schedule Type
420
Page Number
68
George Lightly
Head
M
44
Holyhead, Anglesey
Bertha Lightly
Wife
F
33
Islington, London
Alfred Lightly
Son
M
9
Wood Green, London
Bertha Lightly
Daughter
F
8
Wood Green, London
Mabel Lightly
Daughter
F
6
Manor Park, Essex
Violet Lightly
Daughter
F
3
Manor Park, Essex
Dorothy Lightly
Daughter
F
2
Manor Park, Essex
Edwin Lightly
Son
M
0
Manor Park, Essex

malyon

malyon Report 16 Jun 2017 19:01

LIGHTLY, JOHN  CHARLES  
STARES  

GRO Reference: 1902  S Quarter in WEST HAM  Volume 04A  Page 268

LIGHTLY, WINIFRED  ELSIE  
STARES  

GRO Reference: 1905  S Quarter in WEST HAM  Volume 04A  Page 265

malyon

malyon Report 16 Jun 2017 19:02

LIGHTLY, KATHLEEN    
STARES  

GRO Reference: 1908  S Quarter in WEST HAM  Volume 04A  Page 314


Mother's Maiden Surname: 
 
LIGHTLY, ARTHUR  FREDERICK  
STARES  

GRO Reference: 1910  D Quarter in WEST HAM  Volume 04A  Page 269

Rooter

Rooter Report 16 Jun 2017 19:31

Many thanks to all of you for your kind assistance. It's appreciated.
Georgina was 19 when she married ( from the licence application). Phew!