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Ok, just two problems today

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RockyMountainShy

RockyMountainShy Report 18 Jun 2017 19:56

Hey a big Thank you to all participates in this thread. <3 <3

I did not know that he was married twice or that he was in China or that he was still working in the second world war. I don't know anything about John except that he was a submarine commander, and that his sub was almost sunk by his cousin the aforementioned Fred in WW1. Now I know a whole lot :-D WHOO HOO Too bad grandpa isn't around to know about it. :-(

I wouldn't be surprised that Fred was in hospital ArgyllGran. His brother(my grandfather said "he was pitiful, armchair bound day and night" :-( Not a very nice thing to say about your own brother, I don't think.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 18 Jun 2017 18:43

Thanks, AQ - that will be this man:

Births Jun 1881 (>99%)
CHINA Fred Percy Bath 5c 628



Well, perhaps Rocky's Fred was indeed in hospital - although hospital patients were supposed to be listed..

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 18 Jun 2017 17:10

Doesn't look to be mistranscribed (although surname possibly China and not Phina). Name definately not Davis:

57 Blenheim Terrace , St Marylebone, London, England
Fred P Phina 11 May 1881 Male Civil Servant (Tmc Grade Iii) Married
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I can't see records for any patients at the Royal Free Hospital, Grays Inn Road, London in 1939.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 18 Jun 2017 12:23

Just a long shot, in case of a bad mistranscription (I don't have credits to look at all the details):

Phina Household St Marylebone, London, England
First name(s) Last name(s) Birth year
Fred P Phina 1881


Perhaps he was already in hospital?

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 18 Jun 2017 10:19

For reference (I know you already have this)- this is the wife of Fred Percival Davis in 1939:

Beard (Davis) Household 92 Fortune Green Road , Hampstead, London, England

Florence Beard (Davies) 27 Mar 1886 Female Shop-Keeper Domestic Servant Married
Sidney Dickey 22 Mar 1902 Male Costco Wages Clerk Local Government Printers
Florence (Evelyn) Hardy (Dickey) 02 Jan 1908 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
--------------------------------------------

Fred listed on the electoral register at same address in 1938/9

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 18 Jun 2017 10:06

?
Gloucestershire, England, Electoral Registers, Service Register

1946:- John R Davis, The Croft, Nympsfield Road

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 18 Jun 2017 10:00

His son was living at the address given on the shipping records:

1939
Household The Croft Northfields Road , Nailsworth U.D., Gloucestershire, England

Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
Charles B Davis 27 Dec 192? Male At School Single
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The transcription for Charles birth date says 1924- but it's unclear as it has been altered:

Birth:
First name(s) CHARLES B
Last name DAVIS
Birth year 1922
Birth quarter 1
Mother's last name Warner
District Stroud
County Gloucestershire
Country England
Volume 6A Page 666

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 18 Jun 2017 09:33

John came back on his own ist class


Name: John Reginald Davis
Birth Date: abt 1892
Age: 45
Port of Departure: Far East
Arrival Date: 9 Aug 1937
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Dairen
Ship Name: Aeneas
Search Ship Database: Search for the Aeneas in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Messrs Alfred Holt and Company Ltd
Official Number: 131305

Home address The Croft .Spring hill Nailsworth Gloucestershire

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 18 Jun 2017 08:27

(no worries, was just for reference!)

Chris :)

RockyMountainShy

RockyMountainShy Report 18 Jun 2017 07:59

OK Chris:) I didn't think I had asked about John before, but apparently I have. Sorry :-(

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 18 Jun 2017 07:45

I suspect Dorothy is one of the closed records at her parents address:

1939
Lawton Household 8 Eleventh Avenue , Blyth M.B., Northumberland, England

Mark Lawton 15 Sep 1896 Male Civil Servant Mol S Class Clerk Married
Barbara Lawton 22 Apr 1896 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
Kenneth Lawton 22 Aug 1924 Male Apprentice Bricklayer Single
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 18 Jun 2017 07:39

http://www.worldnavalships.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18049

(above has mention of Hong Kong, from google search)

Chris :)

John Davis was born in Nailsworth in Gloucestershire on 22nd December 1891. On leaving school he qualified as a Fitter and Turner. He joined the Royal Navy as a ‘Direct Entry’ Acting Engine Room Artificer 4th Class at HMS VIVID II (the Royal Naval Barracks) at Devonport on 8th April 1913...

He was sent to the Far East on 30th March 1935 with an appointment to HMS TAMAR at Hong Kong ‘for Charge of Stores and Fleet Duties at Hong Kong’
On his return home John Davis was appointed to the Submarine Depot Ship HMS TITANIA (6th Submarine Flotilla) ‘and for Flotilla Duties’ to date 28th June 1938

(also relating below)

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/military_chat/thread/1355421

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 18 Jun 2017 07:33

So John isn't with Jessie in 1939: (Jessie remarried 1947)

Young Household (5 People) Beach Road South , Blyth M.B., Northumberland, England

Beach Road South , Blyth M.B., Northumberland, England

George D Young 09 Sep 1882 Male Managing Director Departmental Store Married
Ada M Young 18 Sep ? Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
Emma J Reay 15 Jan 1890 Female Domestic Servant Paid Duties Single
Jessie Hender (Hendee,Davis) 20 Apr 1891 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
Cecilia C Fraser 10 Apr 1878 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Widowed

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 18 Jun 2017 07:21

They divorced:

Gloucester Citizen - Saturday 30 October 1943

DIVORCE
County Cases

Petitioner, Jessie Davis, The Croft, Nympsfield Road, Nailsworth; Respondent, John Reginald Davis, Princess Louise Road, Blyth, misconduct

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 18 Jun 2017 07:01

Was John previously married? Was he in the UK in 1939?

Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Transcription
First name(s) John Reginald
Last name Davis
Title ENGR COMMDR
Gender Male
Age 43
Birth year 1892
Marital status M
Occupation ENGR COMMDR
Departure year 1935
Departure day 17
Departure month 4
Departure port Liverpool
Destination port Hong Kong
Destination HONG KONG
Country China
Destination country China
Ship name Hector

Travelling with:
Mrs Jessie Davis,
Age 43
Address: The Camber, Spring Hill, Nailsworth, Glos
--------------------------------

Marriage to Jessie Warner, Stoud, 1915

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 18 Jun 2017 06:09

Well as Dorothy didn't die till 2011 her death won't have been picked up so she is probably still a closed record

They didn't marry till 1944 so won't be a couple on the register


Name: John R Davis
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1944
Registration district: Northumberland Central
Inferred County: Northumberland
Spouse: Dorothy E Lawton
Volume Number: 10b
Page Number: 927

RockyMountainShy

RockyMountainShy Report 18 Jun 2017 00:49

1) John Reginald Davis - I can't find him in 1939. He died in 1974 so he should be there, I don't believe he left the country but maybe he did. Can't find his wife either. He was born Dec 22 1891 in Nailsworth Gloucestershire. Died in Jan. 30 1974 in Yorkshire. His wife Dorothy Eleanor died Nov. 1 2011 at the age of 90 so she should of been hanging around England somewhere too.

2) Frederick(Fred) Percival Davis - He died in the Royal Free Hospital in London May 29 1940. I have found his wife at home but he is not with her :-(. So where is he? Born in June 4 1882 in Witney, Oxfordshire.

Thanks for looking in. :-D