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I am trying to identify the parent s of John Dakin who gave his place of birth as Mickleover Derbyshire in the census records apart from one in which it says Langley.

A tree on Ancestry gives names a Joseph and Ann as his parents but it doesn't say where this info has come from.

I have been advised by someone that there is a baptism for a John Dakin on 19th July 1812 at Mickleover, parents Thomas and Charlotte but how can I prove who John's parents were. I've read about the naming patterns hoping that may help but it hasn't. The sons I've found for him and his wife Elizabeth were names, James,Herbert, John, Thomas and Elijah.

This is the family in 1841

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Mickleover, Burton upon Trent, Derbyshire, England

John Dakin Male 28 1813 Derbyshire, England
Elizabeth Dakin Female 29 1812
John Dakin Male 1 1840 Derbyshire, England
Herbert Dakin Male 3 1838 Derbyshire, England
James Dakin Male 5 1836 Derbyshire, England

Eliza Dakin Female 7 1834 Derbyshire, England

I so hope someone can help.

Chrissie

Possible? But no original to check.
John Dakin
in the Derbyshire, England, Select Church of England Parish Registers, 1538-1910
Derbyshire, England, Select Church of England Parish Registers, 1538-1910 No Image
Text-only collection
Name:
John Dakin
Birth Date:
1808
Burial Date:
6 Oct 1877
Burial Place:
Mickleover, Mickleover, Derbyshire, England
Death Age:
69
FHL Film Number:
1041425

Baptism
County Derbyshire
Place Mickleover
Church name All Saints
Register type Unspecified
Baptism date 7 Dec 1806
Person forename Thomas
Person sex M
Father forename Thomas
Father surname DEAKIN
Mother forename Charlotte


Baptism
County Derbyshire
Place Mickleover
Church name All Saints
Register type Unspecified
Baptism date 26 Mar 1809
Person forename Mary
Person sex F
Father forename Thomas
Father surname DAKIN
Mother forename Charlotte


Burial
County Derbyshire
Place Mickleover
Church name All Saints
Register type Unspecified
Burial date 9 Nov 1810
Person age Infant
Burial person forename Maria
Burial person surname DAKIN


County Derbyshire
Place Derby
Church name All Saints
Register type Unspecified
Marriage date 06 Jun 1803
Groom forename Thomas
Groom surname DAKIN
Bride forename Charlotte
Bride surname MATHER


(just above, from below link)

https://www.freereg.org.uk/

Chris :)

28 June 1878 - Derbyshire Advertiser and Journal - Derby, Derbyshire,

Lot 2.
Two Closes of Meadow Land in the said parish of Mickleover, or known by the name of Pindar's Meadow formerly in the occupation of Joseph Jones, since of John Dakin, and now of his widow, Elizabeth Dakin, Mickleover.


18 July 1900 - Derby Mercury - Derby, Derbyshire, England

Death
Dakin - On the 3id inst., at Mickleover, Mrs. Elizabeth Dakin, aged 88 years


http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1191073?d=asc

(in case Derek is able to help)

Edits (apologies!, already asked on above)

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1091204?page=37

Thank you MargaretM that is the correct one, I have the death certificate.

Thank you for the info Chris Ho. I wasn't awarecof the Derbyshire Advertiser or Mercury entries although I do have Elizabeth death certificatr.

Derek was able to confirm that Thomas was the son of John and Elizabeth but nothing on Johns parents.

Chrissie

Have to go out in a minute but this looks like Herbert's registration - mothers maiden name POTTS:

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
DAKIN, HERBERT POTTS Order
GRO Reference: 1838 M Quarter in BURTON UPON TRENT UNION Volume 17 Page 13


Dea x

John's marriage?:


John Dakin
mentioned in the record of John Dakin and Elizabeth Potts
Name John Dakin
Spouse's Name Elizabeth Potts
Event Date 17 Sep 1832
Event Place Breedon On The Hill,Leicester,England

No fathers recorded though.

Dea x

(below for Elizabeth, perhaps, seeing witness Sarah Potts 1832 Marriage, on image for John, says 'of Mickleover')

Chris :)

Potts Elizabeth Peat 1811 — 1811 Leicestershire Baptisms Breedon on the Hill, Leicestershire, England (Daughter of Hannah Potts)

Pott Sarah 1819 — 1819 Leicestershire Baptisms Breedon on the Hill, Leicestershire, England (Daughter of Hannah Potts, occ. A Servant. Base Born)

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Well in 1841 in Mickleover they all live next door to one another
Thomas 1770- 1842 and Charlotte 1786-1864?
their son Joseph 1796 and Frances
William 1804 and Hannah
John 1812 and Elizabeth she was born in Leicestershire and not born in County.

1851 Charlotte 1786 with daughter Sarah married to William calton still next door to son's Joseph and William.John is on the next page with Elizabeth.

Maryb.

(below coming up)

Chris :)

Derbyshire Burial Index 1538-1910 Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) Charlotte
Last name Dakin
Age 82
Birth year 1782
Burial year 1864
Burial date 02 Jun 1864
Burial place Mickleover, Mickleover, Derbyshire, England
Place Mickleover


First name(s) Thomas
Last name Dakin
Age 72
Birth year 1775
Burial year 1847
Burial date 17 Jan 1847
Burial place Mickleover, Mickleover, Derbyshire, England
Place Mickleover


1841 (Find My Past)
Thomas Dakin Male 65 1776 Derbyshire, England (Silkweaver)
Charlotte Dakin Female 55 1786 Derbyshire, England
Rodger Dakin Male 25 1816 Derbyshire, England
George Dakin Male 20 1821 Derbyshire, England
Charlotte Dakin Female 15 1826 Derbyshire, England
Sarah Dakin Female 10 1831 Derbyshire, England
Parish or township Mickleover
County Derbyshire
Registration district Burton upon Trent
Archive reference HO107
Piece number 189
Book number 9
Folio number 14
Page number 23


Derbyshire Marriage Index 1538-1910 Transcription

First name(s) William
Last name Dakin
Sex Male
Marriage year 1833
Marriage date 26 Feb 1833
Marriage place Mickleover, Mickleover, Derbyshire, England
Spouse's first name(s) Hannah
Spouse's last name Payne
Spouse's sex Female
Place Mickleover


First name(s) George
Last name Dakyn
Baptism year 1820
Baptism day 24
Baptism month Sep
Place Mickleover All Saints
Parents Thomas & Charlotte
Father's occupation Weaver
Residence Mickleover


Edits

Derbyshire Baptism Index 1538-1910 Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) John
Last name Daken
Sex Male
Baptism year 1812
Baptism date 19 Jul 1812
Baptism place Mickleover, Mickleover, Derbyshire, England
Father's first name(s) Tomas
Father's last name Daken
Mother's first name(s) Charlotte
Mother's last name Daken
Place Mickleover

Wow you have been busy, thank you.

Dea, yes they are the correct details.

Chris Ho, I had seen the original baptism record for Elizabeth but not for Sarah. When viewing the original, I couldn't make out if the second name was Peat or Peal. I haven't added Hannah Potts as mum as there was a John Potts who married Hannah Percival in Jan 1811 and wondered if they were the parents and for some reason Johns name wasn't added to the record. With you adding Sarah Potts baptism record, and it stating base born, would you say both girls were illegitimate? This is another of my brick walls. A Hannah Potts married at Breedon on the Hill in 1824, I wonder if it was the same Hannah.

I will have to visit All Saints Mickleover to see if there's a grave stone with other family members listed.

That baptism looks very promising.

Mary, I understand that many years ago families did live very close to each other so that does look promising. I think what's making me unsure is with the exception of John and Elizabeths son Thomas, there doesn't appear to be any other 'family names,

Thank you all so much for your help. I have a genuine reason to try and solve this asap.

Chrissie.

Would someone please give me their thoughts on Thomas and Charlotte being Johns parents with the info that has been found.

A lot of trees on Ancestry have Joseph and Ann, but on checking, the area is totally wrong and no one has provided any source for the info. It looks like everyone has copied the info from one tree.

Although in one of the census records it gives Johns place of birth as Langley, all the others were Mickleover, Kirk Langley is only 3.6 miles from Mickloeover. His baptism did not take place at Langley. The baptism in 1812 which Chris Ho found I believe could very well have been my John's, I would really appreciate your thoughts. I was thinking of discounting it due to placing too much on the use of naming patterns but I'm guessing that the pattern wasn't always used.

Chrissie

(there was Charlotte below, should be about 1861)

Chris :)

Derbyshire Burial Index 1538-1910 Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) Charlotte
Last name Dakin
Age 82
Birth year 1782
Burial year 1864
Burial date 02 Jun 1864
Burial place Mickleover, Mickleover, Derbyshire, England
Place Mickleover

(also below)

Dakin Thomas 1775 — 1847 Derbyshire Burial Index 1538-1910 Mickleover, Derbyshire, England


https://www.freereg.org.uk/

(not sure if there would be anymore relating on above, seems 'hit and miss' at present, with getting results!)

Thanks Chris Ho, you had already added that info earlier up the post. What are your thoughts on your find being the right baptism.

Chrissie

Well, same as you lol, looking likely Thomas/Charlotte...

Maybe try a free trial on FMP to look at images, or sometimes they have these 'free weekend' offers...

(are there any names shared with other Genes Members?, but no hope I suppose if everyone is copying!)

Chris :)

Thank you.

Chrissie