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Hi All,

I'm searching for information on Frederick Jurgens born 1916 his father was Carl F Jurgens, Frederick married my Grandma Sylvia Warnie Flitton on the 21st May 1941 he was a signalman army number 2572597.

Please help as I've come to a dead end.

Thanks in advance for any information.

Belinda

Marriages Jun 1912 (>99%)
Brazier Alfred W Lamprell Aston 6d 557
Bryan Louisa Jurgens Aston 6d 557
Jurgens Carl F Bryan Aston 6d 557
Lamprell Isabella K Brazier Aston 6d 557

Births Jun 1916 (>99%)
Jurgens Frederick W Bryan Sheffield 9c 1377

Carl F Jurgens on the 1939 Register

1939 Register Transcription

Jurgens Household (3 People) 190a Southfield Road , Acton M.B., Middlesex, England
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Carl F Jurgens 18 Jan 1885 Male Razor Maker Married 200 1
Louisa Jurgens 18 Jan 1882 Female Domestic Married 200 2
~??? Gordon 24 Dec 1895 Male Electrician Married 200 3

Name: Karl Frederick Jurgens
Birth Date: 18 Jan 1885
Date of Registration: Jun 1975
Age at Death: 90
Registration district: Ealing
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 12
Page: 0006

Welcome to the boards Belinda.

By the wording on your post, does this mean he isn't your grandfather? From the births on freebmd, in 1942 & 1947 it looks like they split up fairly quickly - as I can't see a death for him 1941/2 or on the CWG site.

Are you trying to find out what happened to him, or where he originated? Incidently he had a brother Carl F born in 1912, who died in 1975 EDIT ignore this bit it was his father as posted by Maddie.

Birth:

Name: Frederick W Jurgens
Mother's Maiden Surname: Bryan
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1916
Registration district: Sheffield
Inferred County: Yorkshire
Volume Number: 9c Page Number: 1377
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Electoral register:
Living with parents, Louisa and Carl at 190a Southfield Road, Acton from 1946 until 1959
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Then remarries in 1959:

Name: Frederick W Jurgens
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1959
Registration district: Ealing
Inferred County: Middlesex
Spouse: Ivy S J Pickering
Volume Number: 5e
Page Number: 428
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Death:
Name: Frederick William Jurgens
Birth Date: 21 Mar 1915
Date of Registration: Dec 1981
Age at Death: 66
Registration district: Ealing
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 12
Page: 0107

Probate:

JURGENS Frederick William of 68 Sunningdale Fleming Road Southall Middlesex died 2 October 1981 Administration London 17 June not exceeding £25000

His brother's birth:

Name: Carl F Jurgens
Mother's Maiden Name: Bryan
Registration Year: 1912
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9c Page: 962

and death:
Name: Carl Frederick Jurgens
Birth Date: 17 Nov 1912
Date of Registration: Dec 1990
Age at Death: 78
Registration district: Hammersmith
Inferred County: London
Volume: 12 Page: 1476

Sylvia's entry on the 1939 register shows her name as Garland (I don't have access)

Willesden M.B., Middlesex, England
Sylvia W Garland (Jungens,Flitton) 1918

Hi Belinda

Sylvia W Garland (Jurgens,Flitton) on the 1939 Register

Flitton Household (5 People) 11 Dean Road , Willesden M.B., Middlesex, England

Sylvia W Garland (Jurgens,Flitton) 08 Mar 1918
Charles Flitton 20 Feb 1870 General Smith Farrier
Lizzie L Flitton 05 Jun 1875 Unpaid Domestic
Mabel F Turners (Flitton) 16 Apr 1901 Clerk
Beatrice Maud Gibbons (Flitton) ? May ? Draper Shop Assistant


Sylvia Ward Garland in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Sylvia Ward Garland
Birth Date: 8 Mar 1918
Date of Registration: Jun 1974
Age at Death: 56
Registration district: Melton Mowbray
Inferred County: Leicestershire
Volume: 6
Page: 2221

Edit: I can't spot the second marriage to Mr Garland.

Two possible births in surnames Garland and Jurgens (mmn Flitton) in 1942 & 1947- Doesn't look like Sylvia and Mr Garland were married.

Hi Austin,

Thank you for this you have been a great help my Grandma and Granddad i don't believe we're ever married.

Can you let me know how you found the details about his 2nd marriage?

Thanks,
Belinda

Births Mar 1915 (>99%)
Daffern Ivy S J Wilson Willesden 3a 537

First marriage.........

Marriages Sep 1933 (>99%)
Daffern Ivy S J Pickering Willesden 3a 937
Pickering Frank T J Daffern Willesden 3a 937


Ivy Sarah J Jurgens in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Ivy Sarah J Jurgens
Birth Date: 26 Feb 1915
Date of Registration: Mar 1982
Age at Death: 67
Registration district: Ealing
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 12
Page: 0311


Ivy Sarah Jane Jurgens in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995
Name: Ivy Sarah Jane Jurgens
Death Date: 19 Mar 1982
Death Place: Greenford Middx
Probate Date: 7 Jun 1982
Registry: London

Of 2 Melrose close, Greenford, Middlesex.......Not Exceeding £25000

Hi Belinda

This is the free site we all use to search for birth, deaths and marriages in England and Wales between Sep 1839----- to abt 1973 ish

Click on the link below........

https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Prickles ;o))

The national archives website has the naturalisation certificate for Frederick's father Carl Frederick - who was born Germany according to this link:

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C11798399

Carl Friedrich
Last name Jurgens
Year 1915
Birth year -
Residence town Warrington, Handsworth
Residence county Lancashire
Conflict First World War
Series Home Office: Registered Papers, Supplementary, 1868-1959
Document details Interment of Enemy Aliens During 1914-1918 War Classifed List
Year range 1914-1918
Archive reference HO 144/11720
Archive The National Archives
Record set Britain, Enemy Aliens And Internees, First And Second World Wars
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory Government
Collections from Great Britain, UK None

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