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So sorry I have taken solong to thank all you wonderful helpers.
I will follow up all the info you have given me .
Thanks again from Antonia

(just to add below, from google search)

Theberton is a village in Suffolk, England. It is located 4 miles northeast of Saxmundham, and 3 miles north of Leiston


Leiston is a town in eastern Suffolk, England, near Saxmundham and Aldeburgh, about 2 miles from the North Sea coast,

(not seeing Leiston Baptisms online, for more details)

Chris :)

Same Address, 1841...

Chris :)

John Elmy Male 60 1781 Suffolk, England (Ag Lab)
Charlotte Elmy Female 20 1821 Suffolk, England
Betsy Elmy Female 10 1831 Suffolk, England
John Booty Male 20 1821 Suffolk, England
John Brown Male 24 1817 Suffolk, England
Street Sluice House
Parish or township Leiston
County Suffolk
Registration district Blything
Archive reference HO107
Piece number 1016
Book number 2
Folio number 5
Page number 2


England, Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) Charlotte
Last name Elmy
Gender Female
Baptism year 1818
Baptism date 24 May 1818
Place Theberton
County Suffolk
Father's first name(s) John
Father's last name Elmy
Mother's first name(s) Sarah
Mother's last name Ward


Suffolk Marriage Index Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) John
Last name Elmy
Marriage year 1807
Marriage date 05 Nov 1807
Place Theberton
Church St Peter
Spouse's first name(s) Sarah
Spouse's last name Ward


(possible)

National Burial Index for England & Wales Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) Sarah
Last name Elms
Birth year 1780
Death year 1824
Age 44
Burial year 1824
Burial day 20
Burial month 5
Place Blythburgh
Church description HOLY TRINITY
Church denomination ANGLICAN


England, Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) Mary
Last name Elmy
Gender Female
Birth place Theberton
Baptism year 1815
Baptism date 30 Apr 1815
Residence Suffolk, England
County Suffolk
Father's first name(s) John
Father's last name Elmy
Mother's first name(s) Sarah
Mother's last name Ward


Edits

1861 (Find My Past)
John Elmy Head Widower Male 83 1778 Labourer Suffolk, England
Rachael Clarke Servant - Female 40 1821 - Westleton, Suffolk, England
Cate Elmy Granddaughter - Female 7 1854 - Westleton, Suffolk, England
Parish Leiston
County Suffolk
Ecclesiastical district Norwich
Registration district Blything
Enumeration district 7
Archive reference RG09
Piece number 1178
Folio 112
Page number 11


Deaths Jun 1868 (>99%)
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ELMY John 90 Blything 4a 392

Be back tomorrow.
Mel

Name: Stephen Charman
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Gender: Male
Where born: Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Sanderstead
Hundred: Wallington (First Division)
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street address:

Registration district: Croydon
Sub-registration district: Croydon
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1078
Book: 13
Folio: 7
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Reuben Charman 40*******as on marriage cert.
Sarah Charman 35
Thomas Charman 15
Emma Charman 13
Mary Charman 10
Caroline Charman 9
Stephen Charman 7
Sarah Charman 2

1851 England Census

Name: Stephen Chorman
[Stephen Charman]
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Relation: Lodger**************
Gender: Male
Where born: Scamstead, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Orpington
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County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation: Farm Labourer

Condition as to marriage: Unmarried

Registration district: Bromley
Sub-registration district: Bromley
ED, institution, or vessel: 3a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 96
Piece: 1606
Folio: 385
Page Number: 25
Household Members:
Name


1871 England Census

Name: Stephen Charman
Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Relation: Soldier
Gender: Male
Where born: Sanderstead, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Woolwich
Town: Woolwich
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: Woolwich
Sub-registration district: Woolwich Dockyard
ED, institution, or vessel: Royal Marine Infirmary and Green Hill Schools
Household schedule number: 1
Piece: 781
Folio: 5
Page Number: 8

Elizabeth Charman

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Name: Elizabeth Charman
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
Relationship to Head: Wife
Spouse: Stephen Charman
Gender: Female
Where born: Leiston, Suffolk, England
Civil Parish: Poplar
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 307 Manchester Rd
Marital Status: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Poplar
ED, institution, or vessel: 35
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 511
Folio: 104
Page Number: 42
Household Members:
Name Age
Stephen Charman 46
Elizabeth Charman 45
James Charman 29** This should be James Franks
Kate Charman 26** This is Isabella Kate but they are both down as Charman!!
James Charman 2
Jane Charman 3

FRANKS, JAMES STEPHEN mmn ELMY
GRO Reference: 1879 J Quarter in WOOLWICH Volume 01D Page 1038

Jane
Name: Kate Elizabeth Jane Franks
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 4 Nov 1877
Born 11 October 1877
Father's name: James Franks
Mother's name: Kate Franks
Parish or Poor Law Union: Woolwich St Mary Magdalene
Borough: Greenwich
Register Type: Parish Registers

Name: Elizabeth Charman
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
Relationship to Head: Wife
Spouse: Stephen Charman
Gender: Female
Where born: Leiston, Suffolk, England**********************
Civil Parish: Poplar
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 307 Manchester Rd
Marital Status: Married

Registration district: Poplar
ED, institution, or vessel: 35
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 511
Folio: 104
Page Number: 42
Household Members:
Name Age
Stephen Charman 46
Elizabeth Charman 45
James Charman 29
Kate Charman 26
James Charman 2
Jane Charman 3

???????

Name: Elizabeth Elmy
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 5 Sep 1831
Christening Place: Theberton, Suffolk, England
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map:

Mother: Sarah Elmy
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?????

Name: Elizabeth Elmy
Spouse: Stephen Charman GUNNER ROYAL ARTILLARY
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 7 Aug 1871
Parish: St Mary Magdalene, Woolwich
Borough: Greenwich
Father Name: John Elmy MARINER
Spouse Father: Renben Charman LABOURER
Register Type: Parish Register

Name: Isabella Kate Elmy
Spouse: James Franks BOMBARDIER ROYAL ARTILLARY
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 11 Oct 1875
Parish: St Mary Magdalene, Woolwich
Borough: Greenwich
Father Name: James Elmy**************James Last???????
Spouse Father: Charles Franks
Register Type: Parish Register

Witnesses STEPHEN CHARMAN and Alice Peters

PS James Last occupation was listed as a dock worker.
Antonia.
the Elizabeth Last in Tring census was Elizabeth Andrews.

Thank you every one for your help and ideas.
we will keep searching . may be worth looking
out of the county. thanks again from Antonia

????


1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Summer House, Dunsley, Tring, Berkhampstead, Hertfordshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Last Head Married Male 34 1827 Gamekeeper Bradfield, Suffolk, England
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Elizabeth Last Wife Married Female 30 1831 - Bradfield, Suffolk, England
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Frederick H Last Son - Male 5 1856 - Bradfield, Suffolk, England
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Edward Last Brother Unmarried Male 29 1832 Gamekeeper Bradfield, Suffolk, England
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Charlotte Menton Visitor Unmarried Female 19 1842 - Wordwell, Suffolk, England
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George Miller - Unmarried Male 70 1791 Formerly Canvas Factory Worker Tring, Hertfordshire, England


????
what is james occupation

thank you Dea but Eliza Elmy Plomesgate married a Joseph Smith
antonia

Yes, I thought this could be your Elizabeth.


1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Sluice House, Leiston, Blything, Suffolk, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Elmy Head Widower Male 74 1777 Agr Labr Suffolk, England
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Elizabeth Elmy Grand Daughter Unmarried Female 20 1831 Agr Labr House Keeper Suffolk, England
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George Gissing Head Married Male 29 1822 Fisherman Theberton, Suffolk, England
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Mary Ann Gissing Wife Married Female 21 1830 - Suffolk, England

Possible Dea?

Marriages Mar 1856 (>99%)
Carter John Thingoe 4a 581 Scan available - click to view
Hawes Sarah Thingoe 4a 581 Scan available - click to view
>>Smith Joseph Plomesgate 4a 581

We have a birth certificate for Isabella giving mothers maiden name
Elizabeth Elmy. In 1851 Elizabeth is on census living with her grand father
in same area of Suffolk as birth of Isabella.

There is this marriage in Suffork with a missing male spouse??

Marriages Mar 1856 (>99%)
Elmy Eliza Plomesgate 4a 881

I can't find a partner for her at the moment - perhaps someone coudl find the mising man?

Dea x

The daughter's birth, for reference:

LAST, ISABELLA mms ELMY
GRO Reference: 1855 J Quarter in BLYTHING Volume 04A Page 608

I don't see any sign of her after that.

Could Elizabeth have married someone else?


England & Wales marriages 1837-2005 Transcription

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First name(s) ELIZABETH
Last name ELMY
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1858
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ ELIZABETH ELMY married one of these people
Matthew Dawson, Evan Lewis
District Blything
District number -
County Suffolk
Country England
Volume 4A
Page 1053

England, Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Transcription
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First name(s) Isabella
Last name Last
Gender Female
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1855
Baptism date 22 Apr 1855
Place -
County Suffolk
Country England
Father's first name(s) James
Father's last name Last
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth


How do you know her mother's surname please? Do you have her on a census record?

Please can anyone help. We are searching for a marriage between
James Last and Elizabeth Elmy 1850 to 1855 in Suffolk.
Have found a birth of a daughter Isabella born 2nd April 1855 in Blything,
sub district Westleton, Leiston. Suffolk. Parents Elizabeth and James Last .
will be grateful for any help or ideas.
from Antonia.