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http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=143897.0

Not the same DOB, but I'll post just in case:

Inconnu Henry
in the Quebec, Canada, Vital and Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1968
Name: Inconnu Henry
Event: Baptême (Baptism)
Baptism Year: 1844
Baptism Location: Montréal, Québec (Quebec)
Place of Worship or Institution: Basilique Notre-Dame

Henry (unknown surname)
On the 9th November 1844, I, the undersigned priest, baptised Henry, born about two weeks ago, of unknown parents. Godmother - Therese Belanger who has declared herself unable to sign.
P Denis, priest.

George Atcheson
Last name Carson
Baptism year 1868
Baptism date 20 Dec 1868
Baptism place Oakamoor, Holy Trinity
Denomination Anglican
Father's first name(s) Henry Atcheson
Mother's first name(s) Caroline
County Staffordshire
Country England
Archive reference D6162/1/1
Page 62
Register type -
Record set Staffordshire Baptisms

GEORGE A
Last name CARSON
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1869
Age 56
Death quarter 3
Death year 1925
District Stoke on Trent
County Staffordshire
Volume 6B
Page 230

can't find any trace of dad in canada

A tree on Ancestry says born abt. 1847, Montreal, married Caroline Turton 1868 and had son George Atcherson Carson born 1868.

CARSON, GEORGE  ATCHERSON  
TURTON  

GRO Reference: 1868  D Quarter in CHEADLE  Volume 06B  Page 283

This could be him scarpering back to Canada in 1886, heading for Montreal:

Henry Carson
in the Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Henry Carson
Gender: Male
Age: 41
Birth Year: abt 1845
Date of Arrival: 19 Apr 1886
Vessel: Sardinian
Port of Arrival: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada and Portland, Maine, USA
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England

It is him though in 1874 swearing to his birth in Montreal and his birth date
Both parents dead

He has no documentation to prove the info so this is sworn in front of a justice of peace

Henry Atcheson
Last name Carson
Birth year 1844
Birth date 4 Mar 1844
Place Montreal
County Quebec
Country Canada
Event type Birth
Reference 41233 107
Record set British Civil Service Evidence Of Age
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain, UK None
Society of Genealogists

He led an interesting life!

Married in 1868, in the same quarter that his son was born.

1871: he's living with his brother-and-sister-in-law (transcribed as Linton on Ancestry - should be Turton) , and his wife Caroline is a lodger elsewhere, originally listed as Unmarried, though that's been scored out and replaced by Married.
The son George is with his grandfather James Turton.

In later censuses, there's no sign of Henry being with Caroline at all.

Name
Henry Atcherson Carson
Event Type
Marriage
Registration Quarter
Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year
1868
Registration District
Stoke On Trent
County
Staffordshire
Event Place
Stoke On Trent, Staffordshire, England
Volume
6B
Page
341
Line Number
113
 
Henry Atcherson Carson probably married one of the following people
Name
Joseph Hilton
Name
Sarah Mountford
Name
Caroline Turton

In trouble agian in 1868

138
Series HO27
Source Home Office: Criminal Registers, England And Wales, 1805-1892
Record set England & Wales, Crime, Prisons & Punishment, 1770-1935
First name(s) Henry Atcherson
Last name Carson
Year 1864
Session date 21 Mar 1864
Court Clerkenwell
Archive The National Archives
Documents Records created or inherited by the Home Office, Ministry of Home Security, and related bodies
Piece scope Lancashire - Rutland
Division Criminal Department
Class 27
Category Institutions & organisations
Subcategory Prison registers
Collections from England, Great Britain, Wales
© Findmypast

Crime asaulting Sarah Barber sentenced to 3 months


Edit possibly a different Henry Carson as the area doesn't fit where Henry A was known to be living

We cross posting :-D

He is a bar man in. 1871 same area as the 1881 census

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Chapel Street, Fenton, Stoke upon Trent, Staffordshire, England


George Turton Head - Male 41 1830 - Staffordshire, England Occ bricklayer
Sarah Turton Wife - Female 40 1831 - Derbyshire, England Transcription
Henry Carson Boarder - Male 27 1844 - Canada


1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Dolphin Inn Piccaddily Crown Bank, Stoke upon Trent, Staffordshire, England

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Print transcription View image Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Anthony Warrilow Head Married Male 42 1839 Licenced Victualler Hanley, Staffordshire, England Transcription
Martha Warrilow Wife Married Female 38 1843 Licenced Victualler Wife Hanley, Staffordshire, England Transcription
John Patterson Servant Single Male 20 1861 Barman (Inn) Sandon, Staffordshire, England Transcription
Henry Carson Servant Married Male 37 1844 Waiter Canada Transcription
Frederick Turner Servant Single Male 14 1867 Barman Hanley, Staffordshire, England Transcription
Elijah Maitland Servant Single Male 14 1867 Barman Hanley, Staffordshire, England Transcription
Mary Kelley Servant Single Female 42 1839 Housemaid (Dom) Galway, Galway, Ireland Transcription
Mary J Young Servant Single Female 21 1860 Waitress (Inn) Newport, Buckinghamshire, England Transcription
Selina Barker Servant Single Female 20 1861 Domestic Serv Tunstall, Staffordshire, England Transcription
Census details

And a barman in 1871.


You said he was in England "by 1868".

Is this him in 1864, imprisoned for 6 (?) months for embezzlement ? If so, I imagine that would put paid to any hope of becoming a civil servant.

Henry Atcherson Carson
in the England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892
Name: Henry Atcherson Carson
Date of Trial: 21 Mar 1864
Trial Year: 1864
Location of Trial: Middlesex, England
Sentence: Imprisonment

[Oops, I see you've added that to your post, Maddie!]

looks like he never joined the civil service

Henry Atcherson Carson

in the England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892
View England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-189

Name: Henry Atcherson Carson
Date of Trial: 21 Mar 1864
Trial Year: 1864
Location of Trial: Middlesex, England
Sentence: Imprisonment
Crime: See Image
Date of Execution or Release:
6 months for embezzelment


he is a waiter in 1881 :-(

From FMP

"Discover more about these records

These details were collected by the Civil Service Commission (CSC) to establish accurate birth records for their staff, to ensure they were of minimum age or eligible for a pension. By the 1980s, the CSC had accumulated original documents for approximately 60,000 individuals, consisting largely of items that it would be impractical to replace, such as personal testimonials or documents from overseas. The records are declarations of births by parents or a signed testimony of an individual’s birth date in place of a birth or baptism record.

This important genealogical collection was deposited at the Society of Genealogists (SoG) and provides unique evidence of birth for which other sources are unlikely to be available.

The collection might more properly be titled the Remains of the British Civil Service Evidence of Age, as it is estimated that it constitutes only 2% of the papers originally collected. It is important to realise that not all civil servants are reflected in the collection, let alone all those who applied to the Civil Service Commission for employment."

Said to be born 1844, Montreal. In England by 1868. Have found an entry for him in Record Set: "British Civil Service Evidence of Age"
Record Collection: Births and Baptisms
Reference:- 41233107
Does anyone know what this means, please?