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EWBANK, ERNEST CHARLES & EWBANK, ERNEST LEWIS

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Edward

Edward Report 27 Jul 2017 02:36

I have a problem identifying my grandfather.
My supposed great grandfather Thomas Charles Ewbank was the father of Ernest Charles Ewbank born 25/2/1876 (birth certificate), who seems to have morphed into Ernest Lewis Ewbank, definitely my grandfather, born about 1879, and who died in Alexandria in 1918. There is no more mention of Ernest Charles in our family tree.
I suspect that Ernest Lewis Ewbank was actually the son of Emily Lewis, Thomas Charles' second wife Emily Lewis, m. 1885. Which would mean, of course, that I am really a "Lewis".
Can anyone throw any light on this?

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 27 Jul 2017 06:39

References...

Chris :)

EWBANK, ERNEST CHARLES (BARNES)
GRO Reference: 1876 J Quarter in ST GILES Volume 01B Page 623


Marriages Dec 1854 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------
Barns Sarah Ann Pancras 1b 43
Ewbank Thomas Charles St Pancras 1b 43


First Name: Ernest Lewis
Last Name: EWBANK
Date of Death: 03/04/1918
Lived/Born In: Regent's Park
Rank: Private
Unit: Royal Army Service Corps 906Coy


http://www.everymanremembered.org/stories/?story=39037

(A 1st cousin to my husband, never known but not forgotton.
Ernest Charles Lewis Ewbank was born in 1876 in St Giles, London to Thomas Charles and Sarah Ann Ewbank. Prior to enlisting, Ernest was a taxi cab driver.
He married Maud Louisa Foakes in 1903 and they had 6 children. Ernest gave his life on 3 April 1918, the 8th birthday of his son Edward.)


All London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 (Ancestry)

Ernest Lewis Ewbank
abt 1880 6 Dec 1904 (1903) Maud Louisa Foakes St Mary Magdalene, St Pancras
(Father, Thomas Ewbank (Deceased)


Thomas Charles Ewbank
19 Oct 1854 Sarah Ann Barns Parish Chapel, St Pancras
(Father, George Ewbank (Dead)


Thomas Ewbank
abt 1837 27 Apr 1885 Emily Lewis St George, Bloomsbury
(Widower. Father, George Ewbank (Deceased) occ. Carpenter


Edits (below has some Burials)

https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 27 Jul 2017 11:12

Is this the family in 1891, with Emily calling herself Ewbank prior to marriage?


Ernest Ewbank
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Ernest Ewbank
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Relation: Son
Father's name: Thomas Ewbank
Mother's name: Emily Ewbank
Gender: Male
Where born: St Giles, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Bloomsbury St George
Ecclesiastical parish: Bloomsbury St George
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:
Registration district: St Giles
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 209
Folio: 9
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Ewbank 56 - plasterer
Emily Ewbank 55
Ernest Ewbank 15 - son, plasterer's boy
Kate Ewbank 16 - step-daughter

Kayak

Kayak Report 27 Jul 2017 11:16

ArgyllGran,

The marriage was in 1885 so Thomas & Emily were already married by 1891 census.

Kayak

Kayak Report 27 Jul 2017 11:18

On that 1891 census Kate is recorded as Stepdaughter but Ernest is recorded as SON so looks like he was definately Thomas Ewbank's son born Ernest Charles.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 27 Jul 2017 11:26

Oh, yes, sorry - senior moment!

Kayak

Kayak Report 27 Jul 2017 11:27

Possibly Emily in 1881 census:


1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
21, Marchmont Place, St Giles in the Fields and St George Bloomsbury, St Giles, London, England


Frederick Lewis Head Married Male 50 1831 Pearl Cutter Goldsmith Paddington, Middlesex, England

Emily Lewis Wife Married Female 43 1838 - Middlesex,

Ellen Lewis Daughter Single Female 16 1865 Feather Maker Paddington, Middlesex, England

Frederick Lewis Son Single Male 11 1870 Scholar Middlesex, England

Minnie Lewis Daughter Single Female 8 1873 Scholar Middlesex, England

Kate Lewis Daughter Single Female 6 1875 Scholar Middlesex, England

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 27 Jul 2017 11:29

Thomas Ewbank
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Thomas Ewbank
Age: 44
Estimated birth year: abt 1837
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Ann Ewbank
Gender: Male
Where born: St Pancras
Civil Parish: St Andrews
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 21 Eagle St
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Builder (Plaster)
Registration district: Holborn
Sub registration district: 1D
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 340
Folio: 9
Page Number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Ewbank 44
Ann Ewbank 45
George Ewbank 16
Ernest Ewbank 5


Emily would be the "mother" he knew best, possibly from a very young age, so he may have wanted to acknowledge her by taking her name.

Kayak

Kayak Report 27 Jul 2017 11:35

If the right Emily Lewis???

Possible birth reg's for Minnie and Kate:




LEWIS, CATHERINE mother's maiden name YARNTON
GRO Reference: 1875 J Quarter in ST GILES Volume 01B Page 567

LEWIS, MINNIE mother's maiden name YARNTON
GRO Reference: 1872 D Quarter in ST. GILES Volume 01B Page 522


Possible Marriage:


Marriages Sep 1858
Lewis Frederick John St Giles 1b 591 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Mahoney James St Giles 1b 591
McCarthy Mary Ann St Giles 1b 591
Yaronton Emily Susan St Giles 1b 591 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<



There is this possible death:

Deaths Jun 1885
Lewis Frederick 54 Kensington 1a 89

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 27 Jul 2017 11:37

LEWIS, ELLEN mms YARNTON
GRO Reference: 1866 M Quarter in ST.GILES Volume 01B Page 483


LEWIS, CATHERINE mms YARNTON
GRO Reference: 1875 J Quarter in ST GILES Volume 01B Page 567


LEWIS, FREDERICK WILLIAM mms YARNTON
GRO Reference: 1870 M Quarter in ST GILES Volume 01B Page 529


I don't see a Yarnton /Lewis marriage. EDIT: Oh yes, you've found it, Tiggit.

Edward

Edward Report 27 Jul 2017 11:39

Thank you Chris.
I am Edward Ernest Ewbank.
None of the above is new to me except the name Ernest Charles Lewis Ewbank.
I have a copy of the birth certificate of Ernest Charles Ewbank (1876) to Thomas Charles Ewbank, and census records of Ernest Lewis Ewbank (b~1878/79 by deduction of his age at the time of census), and the marriage certificate of Ernest Lewis Ewbank (to my grandmother) in 1903 with stated age of 24.
I have not seen any document showing the name Ernest Charles Lewis Ewbank.. However, I do know that Ernest Lewis was my grandfather.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 27 Jul 2017 11:53

Thomas had yet another wife by 1901. Ernest's age is edging nearer to 1879!


Ernest Ewbank
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Ernest Ewbank
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Father: Thomas Ewbank
Mother: Kate Ewbank
Birth Place: St Giles, London, England
Civil Parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: St Pancras
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: St Pancras
Sub-registration district: Gray's Inn Lane
ED, institution, or vessel: 03
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 139
Folio: 100
Page Number: 31
Household schedule number: 217
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Ewbank 63 - plasterer
Kate Ewbank 39
Ernest Ewbank 24 - plasterer
George Jenkins 15 - grandson

Kayak

Kayak Report 27 Jul 2017 11:57

Hi Edward,

Quote from above posted by ArgyallGran

Emily would be the "mother" he knew best, possibly from a very young age, so he may have wanted to acknowledge her by taking her name.


seems likely, does the occupation of Ernest Lewis Ewbank on the marriage certificate in 1903 match with the 1901 census and that of his dad Thomas?

Kayak

Kayak Report 27 Jul 2017 12:01

Possible death for Emily??

Deaths Mar 1900 )
EWBANK Emily 61 Pancras 1b 60

Edward

Edward Report 27 Jul 2017 12:19

Yes, occupation plasterer on both counts.

Edward

Edward Report 27 Jul 2017 12:29

Thank you for all responses. I am satisfied now that Ernest Charles and Ernest Lewis are one and the same, especially after seeing the Lewis family link.
Edward E Ewbank