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Susan

Susan Report 7 Aug 2017 08:07

Hello i need help with my great grandfathers death and were he could be burried
William Richardson born 1860 married Henrietta Hawthorne 1879
Henrietta died 1909 and william married mary ann taylor 1910
I have william and Mary ann in the 1911 census at 26 wallness st salford
I have nothing about them after that

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 7 Aug 2017 09:00

Have you tried FreeBMD

Susan

Susan Report 7 Aug 2017 09:09

Hi yes i did try

Andrew

Andrew Report 7 Aug 2017 09:09

Very common name.

This is in Salford. Approx date of birth

England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007


Name: William Richardson
Death Age: 68
Birth Date: abt 1861
Registration Date: Jun 1929
Registration district: Salford
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 394


There are many other possibles if he moved from Salford.


Andy

Susan

Susan Report 7 Aug 2017 09:15

Thank you for that andrew how would i find which cemetery would it be agecroft as i live hobart Tasmania it's a bit hard to go check

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 7 Aug 2017 09:19

This looks like them .married for one year!

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
26 Wallness Pendleton Salford, Pendleton, Lancashire, England
William Richardson Head Married Male Cloth Finisher 52 1859 Lancashire Salford
Mary Richardson Wife Married Female - 53 1858 Lancashire Salfor
Emma Richardson Daughter - Female School 12 1899 Lancashire Salford
William Richardson Son - Male School 11 1900 Lancashire Salford Transcription

So married quickly maybe because he had young children

Susan

Susan Report 7 Aug 2017 10:44

Hi yes it is them as i have the census thank you my grandad also william was age 11

Pam

Pam Report 7 Aug 2017 10:56

To find where they were buried you would need to contact the Parks and Cemeteries Department of the local council who may be able to help, some charge for the information. Failing that, local churches.

mgnv

mgnv Report 12 Aug 2017 05:12

We supplement FreeBMD with the new GRO index accessed via:
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/
We use several sites from http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/local_bmd
incl Lancs Ches and Staffs

We use http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/
We use https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1®ion=UNITED_KINGDOM_IRELAND

We start off with Wm's parents and sibs

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1879
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
RICHARDSON William HAWTHORNE Henrietta Salford Ascension Salford C29/1/472

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1910
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
RICHARDSON William TAYLOR Mary A Salford Ascension Salford C29/6/221


http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Salford/Broughton/index.html
Church of England
The Ascension, Clarence Street, Lower Broughton, Broughton
The Ascension is located at OS Grid Reference - SJ 826998
Founded in 1869

http://www.salfordascension.org/index.html

http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/5371731
SJ8299 : The Church of the Ascension
The Church of the Ascension in Lower Broughton. Badly damaged by a fire in February 2017.
Subject Location SJ 8267 9981 [10m precision]

You can look up SJ 826998 or better still SJ 8267 9981 at:
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/
Streetmap will place the arrow tip at SJ 82675 99815 - i.e., it will add half the precision to both the easting and the northing.
It will convert this Landranger style OS grid ref to the older classical style coordinate 382675,399815&
This is reflected in the URL with the embedded portion x=382675&y=399815&
Street map gives you a street map back - this also shows Wallness Lane just off Frederick Rd 600m to SW just across the Wallness Bridge over the R Irwell at the edge of the rec ground.
Moving out from zoom level 2 to zoom level 3 or 4 gets you to a topographical map.
Here churches are marked - in this case by a + indicating a church with no tower or spire. (At oom level 1, churches are marked as PWs - Places of Worship)
Geograph uses zomm level 4 for their inset map.
The blue grid lines are 1 km apart

St Barnabas, Frederick Road, Pendleton
St Barnabas is located at OS Grid Reference - SJ 818994
Founded in 1887. Closed in 1973.

The church isn't marked on a modern map, but we can look up SJ 818 994 at http://www.old-maps.co.uk/index.html
We want to use a map of scale 1:2500 or larger - 1:10560 is too small a scale to be useful.
The button at the top-right corner with a square on it turns off the blue.

Anyway, we see St Barnabas is on Frederick Road on the SE corner of its junction with Wynne St, so it's just 200m along from Wallness Lane


RICHARDSON, WILLIAM HENRY HAWTHORN Order
GRO Reference: 1880 D Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 96

RICHARDSON, THOMAS HAWTHORNE Order
GRO Reference: 1882 J Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 51

RICHARDSON, MARY ELIZABETH HAWTHORNE Order
GRO Reference: 1884 M Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 78

RICHARDSON, HENRIETTA HAWTHORNE Order
GRO Reference: 1886 S Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 95

RICHARDSON, SARAH ANN HAWTHORN Order
GRO Reference: 1889 M Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 82

RICHARDSON, MARTHA ALICE HAWTHORN Order
GRO Reference: 1891 J Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 118

RICHARDSON, JAMES HAWTHORNE Order
GRO Reference: 1894 J Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 112

RICHARDSON, EMMA HAWTHORNE Order
GRO Reference: 1898 D Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 108

RICHARDSON, WILLIAM HAWTHORNE Order
GRO Reference: 1899 D Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 125

Thos & Mary E were rego'ed in the Broughton subdistrict - all the rest were rego'ed in the Greengate subdistrict.

For kids less than 2 y.o., the age is given in months in the new index.
Deaths Mar 1881 (>99%)
RICHARDSON William Henry 0 Salford 8d 36
RICHARDSON, WILLIAM HENRY 4 Order
GRO Reference: 1881 M Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 36

Deaths Dec 1892 (>99%)
Richardson Sarah Ann 3 Salford 8d 76
Richardson Martha Alice 1 Salford 8d 83
RICHARDSON, MARTHA ALICE 20 Order
GRO Reference: 1892 D Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 83

Deaths Dec 1895 (>99%)
Richardson James 1 Salford 8d 108
RICHARDSON, JAMES 20 Order
GRO Reference: 1895 D Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 108

Deaths Dec 1909 (>99%)
RICHARDSON Henrietta 49 Salford 8d 73




1901 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9KB-HD8
Civil Parish Salford
Ecclesiastical Parish St Matthias
Sub-District Greengate
Registration District Salford
Residence Note Pine Street
Registration Number RG13 Piece/Folio 3731/ 140 Page Number 7
William Richardson Head M 40 Salford, Lancashire FINISHER CALICO PRINT WORKS
Henrietta Richardson Wife F 40 Stafford, Staffordshire
Elizabeth Richardson Daughter F 17 Salford, Lancashire DRAWER IN FLAX MILL
Henrietta Richardson Daughter F 14 Salford, Lancashire
Emma Richardson Daughter F 2 Salford, Lancashire
William Richardson Son M 1 Salford, Lancashire

1891 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:78HS-BT2
Parish Salford
Ecclesiastical Parish ST MATTHIAS
Registration District Salford
[Sub-District Greengate]
Residence Note Blackburn Street
Registration Number RG12 Piece/Folio 3217/ 114 Page Number 6
William Richardson Head M 31 Lancashire, England Calenderer
Henrietta Richardson Wife F 31 Staffordshire, England Reeler
Thomas Richardson Son M 9 Lancashire, England
Mary E Richardson Daughter F 7 Lancashire, England
Henrietta Richardson Daughter F 5 Lancashire, England

1881 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27P-WX1S
Event Place Broughton, Lancashire, England
Registration District Salford
[Sub-District Broughton]
Residence Note Hatton St
Registration Number RG11 Piece/Folio 3952/134 Page Number 19
William Richardson Head M 21 Broughton, Lancashire, England M Calender Dyer Undef
Henrietta Richardson Wife F 21 Stafford, England M Fustian Cutter
Lucy Hawthorn Sister Law F 25 Stafford, England S Winder
Henrietta Hawthorn Daughter F 2 Guide Bridge, Lancashire, England
Thomas Hawthorn Brother In Law M 15 Salford, Lancashire, England S Benchminder

1871 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KD6H-3TD
Event Place Salford, Lancashire, England
Enumeration District 11
Affiliate Image Identifier GBC/1871/4017/0140
[Registration Number RG10 Piece/Folio 4017/ 69 Page Number 36]
Henry Hawthorn Head M 35 Burslem, Staffordshire W Tailor
Lucy Hawthorn Daughter F 16 Longton, Staffordshire
Heneriette Hawthorn Daughter F 10 Stafford, Staffordshire
William Hawthorn Son M 7 Salford, Lancashire
Thomas Hawthorn Son M 4 Salford, Lancashire
[Ancestry transcribes surname as Hanthorn]


Staffordshire Birth indexes for the years: 1854
Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Sub-District Registers At Reference
HAWTHORN Lucy BROWNING Longton Stoke-On-Trent LGN/020/062

Staffordshire Birth indexes for the years: 1860
Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Sub-District Registers At Reference
HAWTHORN Harriette BROWNING Stafford Newcastle-Under-Lyme STD/20/36

mgnv

mgnv Report 12 Aug 2017 05:17

More on Wm, his siblings and Aunt Lucy

Marriage: 10 Dec 1904 St Thomas, Pendleton, Lancs.
James William Hardman - 22, Labourer, Bachelor, 47 Hankinson St.
Mary Elizabeth Richardson - 20, Reeler, Spinster, 1 Freehold Terrace, Pendleton
Groom's Father: Samuel Augustine Hardman, Labourer
Bride's Father: William Richardson, Finisher
Witness: Peter Hardman; Sarah Ann Vickers
Married by Banns by: J. Dale Jones
Register: Marriages 1904 - 1908, Page 36, Entry 71
Source: Manchester Central Library



Marriage: 25 Nov 1905 St Barnabas, Pendleton, Lancashire, England
John Edward Mason - 21 Packer Bachelor of 9 Young St
Henrietta Richardson - 19 Spinster of 26 Wallness
Groom's Father: Henry Green Mason, Labourer
Bride's Father: William Richardson, Finisher
Witness: Samuel Platt Mason; Mary Elizabeth Hardman
Married by Banns by: George Morgan
Register: Marriages 1888 - 1908, Page 211, Entry 422
Source: Microfilm held at Manchester Central Library

1911 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWB2-S2L
Event Place South Manchester, Gorton, Lancashire, England
County Lancashire
Parish South Manchester
Sub-District Ardwick
Registration District Chorlton
Registration Number RG14 Piece 23787
John Edward Mason Head M 26 Gorton, Lancashire HYDRALIC PACKER OF COTTON GOODS
Henrietta Mason Wife F 24 Salford, Lancashire
Henrietta Mason Daughter F 4 Salford, Lancashire
Hilda Esther Mason Daughter F 1 Gorton, Lancashire

MASON, HENRIETTA RICHARDSON Order
GRO Reference: 1906 D Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 97

MASON, HILDA ESTHER RICHARDSON Order
GRO Reference: 1910 J Quarter in CHORLTON Volume 08C Page 780



Marriage: 25 Jul 1925 St Barnabas, Pendleton, Lancashire, England
William Arthur Watson - 21 Electrician Bachelor of 1 Leigh St
Emma Richardson - 26 Spinster of 1 Leigh St
Groom's Father: William Richard Watson, Trade Union Organiser
Bride's Father: William Richardson, Cloth Finisher
Witness: Ann Burton; Mary Elizabeth Hardman
Married by Banns by: Geo. H. Talboys BA, Vicar
Register: Marriages 1919 - 1931, Page 77, Entry 154
Source: Microfilm held at Manchester Central Library

Marriage: 2 Jul 1921 St Barnabas, Pendleton, Lancashire, England
William Richardson - 21 Labourer Bachelor of 26 Wallness
Eliza Ann Williamson - 21 Spinster of 26 Wallness
Groom's Father: William Richardson, Labourer
Bride's Father: Robert Williamson, Engineer
Witness: William Richardson; Sarah Ellen Thorpe
Married by Banns by: Geo. H. Talboys BA, Vicar
Register: Marriages 1919 - 1931, Page 39, Entry 78
Source: Microfilm held at Manchester Central Library





Cheshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1886 to 1890 [1886q2]
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
HAWTHORNE Lucy CHEETHAM Charles Ashton under Lyne Civil Marriage or Registrar Attended Tameside RM/63/106

Deaths Jun 1896 (>99%)
Cheetham Charles 43 Ashton 8d 361

Marriage: 6 Apr 1901 St Oswald, Collyhurst, Lancashire, England
Thomas Lowe - 39 Hatter Widower of 7 Upper Vauxhall St.
Lucy Chatham - (X), 41 Widow of 7 Upper Vauxhall St.
Groom's Father: Thomas Lowe, Mechanic
Bride's Father: Henry Hawthorn, Tailor
Witness: William Hawthorn; Sarah June Hawthorn
Married by Banns by: A. W. Taylor
Register: Marriages 1893 - 1905, Page 167, Entry 334
Source: LDS Film 2148023
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6BBS-NSW?i=166&wc=M6FC-KMW%3A143838901%2C149917201%2C149984301&cc=1788853

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 12 Aug 2017 06:58

http://www.burialrecords.manchester.gov.uk/

https://www.findagrave.com/

(above links can be useful sometimes)

Chris :)

Edits (below at Address)

Marriage: 25 Nov 1905 St Barnabas, Pendleton, Lancashire, England
John Edward Mason - 21, Packer, Bachelor, 9 Young St
Henrietta Richardson - 19, Spinster, 26 Wallness
Groom's Father: Henry Green Mason, Labourer
Bride's Father: William Richardson, Finisher
Witness: Samuel Platt Mason; Mary Elizabeth Hardman
Married by Banns by: George Morgan
Register: Marriages 1888 - 1908, Page 211, Entry 422
Source: Microfilm held at Manchester Central Library

http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html


1911 (Find My Past)
John Edward Mason Head Married Male Hydralic Packer Of Cotton Goods 26 1885 Gorton Lancashire
Henrietta Mason Wife Married Female House Wife 24 1887 Salford Lancashire
Henrietta Mason Daughter - Female - 4 1907 Salford Lancashire
Hilda Esther Mason Daughter - Female - 1 1910 Gorton Lancashire
Address 199 Napier St Church Lane Gorton
Parish South Manchester
County Lancashire
Census reference RG14 PN23787 RG78 PN1378C RD464 SD2 ED86 SN232
(says Married 5yrs, 2 children born, 2 living)


Deaths Jun 1925 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------
Mason John E 40 Manchester S. 8d 129

Marriages Dec 1928 (>99%)
----------------------------------------------------------------
BOOTH Henry Mason Manchester S. 8d 255
Mason Henrietta Booth Manchester S. 8d 255


1939 Register (Find My Past)

2 John (Johnson) Street , Manchester C.B.,
Henrietta Booth 13 Jun 1886 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
Harry Booth 07 May 1886 Male Heavy Motor Driver Petrol Delivery Married
Edward Mason 07 Apr 1913 Male Motor Driver Building Trade Single


Births Jun 1913 (>99%)
---------------------------------------------------------------
Mason Edward Richardson Chorlton 8c 1416


(also at same Address 1939, below couple)

Marriages Sep 1926 (>99%)
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Glass William Mason Manchester S 8d 678
Mason Henrietta Glass Manchester S. 8d 678



Deaths Mar 1951 (>99%)
-----------------------------------------------------------
BOOTH Henrietta 64 Manchester 10e 450


https://tinyurl.com/y7sllvd6

(Find A Grave above, has Gravestone, Henrietta Booth/John Edward Mason)


Burial 24/2/1951 Henrietta Booth Gorton Cemetery DNon Conformist 40 1
Burial 30/5/1925 John Edward Mason Gorton Cemetery DNon Conformist 40 2

http://www.burialrecords.manchester.gov.uk/GenSearch.aspx


(would see what is said for Father on 1928 Marriage Cert.)

mgnv

mgnv Report 12 Aug 2017 15:55

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1928
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
BOOTH * Henry MASON Henrietta Chorlton-on-Medlock Register Office or Registrar Attended Manchester CHO_RM/351/117
BOOTH * Henry RICHARDSON Henrietta Chorlton-on-Medlock Register Office or Registrar Attended Manchester CHO_RM/351/117


Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1926
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
MASON Henrietta GLASS William Gorton, Baptist Chapel, Wellington Street Manchester 295/1/18

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1929[q4]
Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Sub-District Registers At Reference
GLASS Jean MASON Openshaw Manchester OPE/40/47