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Have a look here and scroll to near the bottom of the page to find where "records" are kept:-

http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Greenwich/

It seems like Ancestry has some records searchable by name.

EDIT - are you sure Mary Ann Donovan was at the workhouse infirmary on census night as I can't seem to find her?

Kath. x

I can't see James' birth on the GRO

Could you post the details of the 1881 census for Mary.

Is this the family in 1891:

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
The Bank, Crayford, Dartford, Kent, England

James Dorovan Head Married Male 40 1851 General Labourer Suffolk,
Mary Ann Dorovan Wife Married Female 32 1859 - Essex, England
James Dorovan Son Single Male 9 1882 Scholar Old Kent Road, London
Harry (Henry) Dorovan Son Single Male 4 1887 Scholar Dartford, Kent,
Alice Dorovan Daughter Single Female 2 1889 - Crayford, Kent,
William Beadle Lodger Single Male 52 1839 General Labourer Kent, England
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Birth
DONOVAN, ALICE MAUD mmn: COWELL
GRO Reference: 1889 M Quarter in DARTFORD Volume 02A Page 476

1901

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Orchard Hill, Crayford, Dartford, Kent, England


James Donovan Head Married Male 50 1851 Farm Labourer Ireland
Mary A Donovan Wife Married Female 41 1860 - Essex, England
George Donovan Son Single Male 14 1887 - Crayford, Kent, England
Maud Donovan Daughter Single Female 12 1889 - Crayford, Kent, England
Walter Donovan Son Single Male 8 1893 - Crayford, Kent, England
Henry Donovan Son Single Male 6 1895 - Crayford, Kent, England

Frank Donovan Son Single Male 2 1899 - Crayford, Kent, England
Joseph Phippen Lodger Married Male 60 1841 Army Pensioner Farm Labr Not Known






Results:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
DONOVAN, WALTER COWELL Order
GRO Reference: 1893 J Quarter in DARTFORD Volume 02A Page 459

Was James born before the marriage? as there is quite a big gap between his DOB and siblings

From Scatty's tree

James Donovan 1850 Bishopsgate, London ...

so need some more info really.

Have you got the birth cert as not seeing it

Plus anyone in the workhouse infimary wasn't necessarily in the workhouse

Folks used the infirmary for illness and births if they couldn't afford private doctor care

The 1881 census was taken 8th April

Does below relate anywhere?...

Chris :)

Baptism
County Kent
Place Crayford
Church name St Paulinus
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 2280
Baptism date 31 Mar 1889
Person forename Alice Maud
Person abode The Bank
Father forename James
Father surname HINES-DONOVAN
Father occupation Labourer
Mother forename Mary Anne


Baptism
County Kent
Place Crayford
Church name St Paulinus
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 45
Baptism date 24 May 1891
Person forename William
Person abode Bank
Father forename James
Father surname DONOVAN
Father occupation Labourer
Mother forename Mary


Baptism
Place Crayford
Church name St Paulinus
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 638
Baptism date 26 Mar 1899
Person forename Frank
Person abode Orchard Hill
Father forename James Hines
Father surname DONOVAN
Father occupation Labourer
Mother forename Mary Ann


Burial
County Kent
Place Crayford
Church name St Paulinus
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 735
Burial date 01 Sep 1904
Person age 48
Burial person forename Mary Anne
Burial person surname DONOVAN
Burial person abode Orchard Hill

https://www.freereg.org.uk/


Edits (relates below/Hines. Suffolk, Hadleigh)

https://www.british-genealogy.com/archive/index.php/t-36995.html


https://www.curiousfox.com/vill100/Kent21465_1.html

Great work- as usual Chris- would've been helpful to know from the start :)

So, James' birth:

HINES, JAMES HENRY mmn: COUELL
GRO Reference: 1881 S Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 1006

sibling: (listed as Henry on 1891 census and as George on 1901 census)

HINES, HENRY GEORGE mmn: CONELL
GRO Reference: 1886 S Quarter in DARTFORD Volume 02A Page 491

Apologies and a big thanks to all.
Firstly, I did boob with detailing James Hines birth in infirmary, have his birth cert in name of Hines although he was referred to as James Donovan later,my mistake.
The Hine- Donovan census and other records in CrayfordI I do have these already so again,thanks to all concerned for taking time to post replies to my thread.

What I'm after is a record of his mother Mary Anns admission would this still be held anywhere. I have not looked for union records before.

Regards to everyone

All London, England, Workhouse Admission and Discharge Records, 1659-1930 (Ancestry)

(above searchable by Surname etc.)

London, England, Poor Law and Board of Guardian Records, 1430-1930 (Ancestry)

(above searchable by Borough, Date)


1881 Census taken 3rd April (from google search)

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/census-records/

(Census Dates)

Chris :)

(or a visit to LMA London)

https://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/things-to-do/london-metropolitan-archives/Pages/default.aspx

I'm still not seeing Mary on the 1881 census.

There is this record on Ancestry:

Name: Mary Ann Hines
Birth Date: abt 1855
Admission Age: 26
Admission Date: 29 Jun 1881
Record Type: Admission
Borough: Greenwich
Parish or Poor Law Union: Greenwich
Place: London, England
Title: Workhouse (Institution) Woolwich Road, 1880-1882

Hines- Mary Ann, wife of Jas a labourer Freaks hill Lane Deserted by husband

(can't stay, but did that go with below AQ, do you reckon? (was trying to 'sort' late last night, didn't get very far though!)

Marya Hines
30 Jun 1881 Greenwich Greenwich

Chris :)

Nice find Chris-

Think it is the same person.

Looks like she was admitted to the workhouse on the 29th June 1881, and then discharged on the 30th June 1881 to go to the infirmary.

Name: Marya Hines
Discharge Date: 30 Jun 1881
Discharge Age: 26
Record Type: Discharge
Borough: Greenwich
Parish or Poor Law Union: Greenwich
Discharged 10.45
Remarks- to infirmary

(aah!, thanks for checking, so could be family then perhaps!)

Chris :)

I come from that area and the workhouse gates were in Woolwich Road and the hospital was above it entrance in Vanburgh hill

The workhouse became the nurses quarters and the hospital became
St Alphege hospital . Out daughter was born there in 1958

My mum was a Ward orderly there and then a cleaner in the nurses home in the 1950, s
It later was demolished and replaced with the new build Greenwich District hospital but that was later closed and pulled down

I had ancestors who were in the workhouse too in the 1800,s


Info
http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Greenwich/

Once,again thankyou all,very interesting reading and information on this topic :-)