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(think probabyl below Mel, checking that 1889 Birth on GRO Index, Mother Maiden Name, Hargraves)

Marriages Jun 1885 (>99%)
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Bell George Edward Blaby 7a 77
Hargreaves Mary Elizabeth Blaby 7a 77

Chris :)

(always a mystery though how Sue knows half the facts!, lol, and it would help if she gave us references to the Census where she obtains Birth Dates/Places from, so we can check!)

Edits

Birth
BELL, NELLIE (HARGRAVES)
GRO Reference: 1889 J Quarter in BLABY Volume 07A Page 33


(and possibly relates back to below, Charles with Parents John/Jane, who Married a Nellie in 1937, if he did!, marry this Nellie that is, Certs called for!)

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1367663

Name: George Bell
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Age: 23
Birth Date: 1864
Marriage Date: 26 Nov 1887
Marriage Place: St. James' Church, Hull, York, England
Father: James Bell
Spouse: Mary Elizabeth Brooks
FHL Film Number: 1657088
Reference ID: VS it10 p163 cn 325

Birth of the Nellie in the censuses above:

Births Jun 1889 (>99%)
Bell Nellie Blaby 7a 33


I don't see a Nellie in Leicestershire born 1885. Where did you find that date?

There's an Eleanor Ann born 1886, but her father's name was Amos.

Montague S Martin married Bradford 1952.

If this is the right Nellie she would have been 39 at Robins birth and 52 when she married Charles... ?

And in 1901:


Nellie Bell
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Nellie Bell
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Father: George Bell
Mother: Mary Bell
Birth Place: Leicestershire, England
Civil Parish: Leicester formerly Aylestone
Ecclesiastical parish: Aylestone St James
Town: Leicester
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Leicester
Sub-registration district: South Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3002
Folio: 92
Page Number: 25
Household schedule number: 160
Household Members:
Name Age
George Bell 37
Mary Bell 35
Florrie Bell 13
Nellie Bell 12
Edith Bell 10
Gertrude Bell 8
George Bell 5
Harry Bell 3
Madge Bell 1


If that's the Nellie you mean, the censuses are agreed that her YOB was 1889, not 1885.

How do you know her father's name? Do you have her marriage cert?

Here's that Nellie in 1911:

Nellie Bell
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Nellie Bell
Age in 1911: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Aylestone Park, Leicester, Leicestershire, England
Civil Parish: Leicester
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England
Street address: 15 Lorrimer Road Aylestone Park Leicester
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Machinest
Registration district: Leicester
Registration District Number: 407
Sub-registration district: South Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Piece: 19267
Household Members:
Name Age
George Edward Bell 47
Mary Elizabeth Bell 45
Florence Bell 23
Nellie Bell 22
Edith Alice Bell 20
Gertrude Bell 17
Harry Bell 13
Maggie Bell 11
Frank Bell 8
Charles Bell 6

Copied over from your other thread (best to keep everything in one place) -


Can you find me Nellie Bell on 1901 and 1911

Sidami Report 15 Aug 2017 16:34

She was born 1885 in Leicestershire she married 1937 to Charles Martin but thinking she would be 42 then? I have her with a middle name of Chase wonder if she married before? Her father is George Edward Bell.



Is this her in 1891 - age slightly out? Do you know where in Leicestershire she was born?


Nellie Bell
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Nellie Bell
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: George E Bell
Mother's name: Mary E Bell
Gender: Female
Where born: Aylestone, Leicestershire, England
Civil Parish: Aylestone
Ecclesiastical parish: Aylestone Park St James
Town: Aylestone
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England
Street address:
Registration district: Blaby
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2496
Folio: 45
Page Number: 23
Household Members:
Name Age
George E Bell 27 - gas stoker
Mary E Bell 25
Florence Bell 3
Nellie Bell 2
Edith A Bell 2/12
Alfred Voss 21 - lodger

Please could you see if you can see Nellie Bell wife of Charles Sydney Martin (they married 1937) on the 1901 and 1911 census she was born 1885 Leicestershire Thankyou.

Normally short for Helen, but there are lots of people officially called Nellie .

The 1911 census has a surprising number of Nellie Bells in Yorkshire, born in or near 1909. None specifically in Bradford.

What is Nellie shortened for please?

Of the people on that list of directors I posted the link to earlier:

Anthony Frederick is Robin's son.
Someone called Katie Jane has him on her GR tree - you could try contacting her.

Katie Jane also has Andrew, Nigel, and Kevin on her tree - also sons of Robin.

June is Robin's wife (someone called Janice has her on a GR tree) , and Terence Walters will probably be his brother-in-law.

As well as being on GR trees, there are addresses for all these people on the link I posted.

The one above:

Martin Household (5 People) 15 Muirfield Drive , Skegness U.D., Lincolnshire (Parts of Lindsey), England
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Occupation
Charles S Martin 27 Jul ? Tractor Car Lorry Sales
Barbara H Wells (Martin) 21 Dec 1920 Unpaid Domestic Duti
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Dea x

Looks to be this one


Martin Household (5 People)
15 Muirfield Drive , Skegness U.D., Lincolnshire (Parts of Lindsey), England
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Charles S Martin 27 Jul 1882 Tractor Car Lorry Sales
Barbara H Wells (Martin) 21 Dec 1920 Unpaid Domestic Duti
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If anything!...

Chris :)

27 January 1937 - Skegness Standard - Skegness, Lincolnshire, England

UNDER INFLUENCE OF DRINK
The defendant was Charles Sydney Martin (59). 10, Sunningdale Drive North, Skegness, a motor salesman employed by Mr. A T. Friskney, of Homcastle


14 November 1931 - Lincolnshire Echo - Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England

OMITTED TO HAVE LICENCES
...and Charles Sydney Martin, of Devonshire Lodge, Sunnlngdale-drlve Skegness,

Not looking too good though as I think this is he above couple in 1939 and although they do have a son called Robin it doesn't seem to fit?

Martin Household (4 People) 28 Carnarvon Road , Gosport M.B., Hampshire, England
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Occupation
Nellie A L Martin 04 Apr 1909 Unpaid Domestic Duties
Stanley Charles (S) Martin 10 May 1907 Plumber
Robin S Martin 05 Aug 1933 At School
Charles Martin 13 Mar 1869 Furniture Remover & Packer (Retired)

Dea x

So way after the births then ???

If the above baptism is correct then this looks like his parent's marriage:

Marriages Dec 1937 (>99%)
Bailey Freda Oglivie Bradford 9b 357 Scan available - click to view
**Bell Nellie Martin Bradford 9b 357 Scan available - click to view
**Martin Charles S Bell Bradford 9b 357 Scan available - click to view
Ogilvie John Bailey Bradford 9b 357 Scan available - click to view

Dea x

Not seeing the marriage or them on the 1939 register

Thankyou....would his parents be on 1939? Trying to find their marriage?