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I agree.

;-)

Edit: Apart from the buriel record.....I can't seem to spot any other information regarding a Thomas Hetherington Tweddle.

(hmm, lol, very calming the ol' lavender in garden centres!, thinks perhaps Jean would be better with Birth Cert. of Wilhelmina Tweddle, to start with)...

Chris :)

Cor blimey Chris.

Just when i thought i was done!!!! :-D

I went through all the Wilhelmina Smith's last night until my eyes crossed over. :-S

Annie Hirst's mother's maiden name was originally Heatherington......so quite possibly a connection there somewhere?

I suggest you come in from the garden and sort it out.

Oh, and be quick about it!

Prickles.

:-D

(just so you don't sit 'tweddlin' thumbs PH (lol) did see below, not sure where it is on below though, in case it related!)

https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Chris :)

Yorkshire Burials Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) Thomas Hetherington
Last name Tweddle
Age 31
Birth year 1877
Burial year 1908
Burial date 18 Jun 1908
Burial place North Ormesby Cemetery, North Ormesby


Edits (below came up on google search, Ancestry query! perhaps better to leave well alone, lol, glad I'm out to garden centre)

Hi I am looking for information on William Hetherington Tweddle and any relatives he may have, I am unsure where he was born but in his adult years he was living in Middlesbrough until he died age 31 in 1908...

Thank you prickly holly .

There is another Tweddle/Hirst birth registered

TWEDDLE, EDWIN FREDERICK MMN HIRST
GRO Reference: 1906 M Quarter in MIDDLESBROUGH Volume 09D Page 630

Edwin Frederick Tweddle in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Edwin Frederick Tweddle
Registration Year: 1906
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Middlesbrough
Inferred County: Yorkshire North Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 630


Edwin Frederick Tweddle in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Edwin Frederick Tweddle
Estimated birth year: abt 1906
Registration Year: 1907
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 1
Registration district: Middlesbrough
Inferred County: Yorkshire North Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 341


Yorkshire Burials Transcription

First name(s) Edwin Frederick
Last name Tweddle
Age 1Y 6M
Birth year 1906
Burial year 1907
Burial date 17 Jul 1907
Burial place North Ormesby Cemetery, North Ormesby *****
County Yorkshire (North Riding)
Country England
Archive reference -
Page 75
Record set Yorkshire Burials
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from England, Great Britain


Interesting!

YOU are a great detective prickly holly thank you again .

It drove me crazy yesterday trying to figure out the details of Wilhelmina Smith.

According to the 1911 census, she was born 1909 North Ormesby, Yorkshire.

According to the 1939 Register, she was born 6th June 1908.

First of all, there are no Wilhelmina Smith birth's registered in 1908 to fit those details.

There are also no births registered with MMN Hirst.

The registration district for North Ormesby, Yorkshire is Middlesbrough.........So this morning, i checked out births for a Wilhelmina registered in Middlesbrough 1908.

I found this one......

Births Jun 1908 (>99%)
Tweddle Wilhelmina Middlesbro' 9d 695

I checked her out on the GRO and bingo!!

TWEDDLE, WILHELMINA MMN HIRST
GRO Reference: 1908 J Quarter in MIDDLESBROUGH Volume 09D Page 695

She married James Brown with the middle initial of "T" (Tweddle?)

Marriages Mar 1930 (>99%)
Brown James Smith Auckland 10a 321
Smith Wilhelmina T Brown Auckland 10a 321

Her death.......

Wilhemina Brown in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Wilhemina Brown
Death Age: 81
Birth Date: 6 Jun 1908
Registration Date: Mar 1990
Registration district: Durham Western
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 1
Page: 1653

There are no Hirst/Tweddle marriages registered.......so i think you would need to purchase a copy of her birth certificate to be able to figure that one out!!

Phew!! :-)

Thank you prickly holly .i will try the durham records .thanks for all your help .

Cemetery Registers Hartlepool 1926 John William Paylor abt 1897 Shrewsbury Street

(also for above Address)

Baptisms Hartlepool 1923 Florence Winifred Paylor 1923 32 Shrewsbury St.

Cemetery Registers Hartlepool 1924 Florence Winifred Paylor abt 1923 Shrewsbury Street

Baptisms Hartlepool 1925 Lucy Paylor 1924 32 Shrewsbury St.

Baptisms Hartlepool 1922 Constance Maud Paylor 1922 32 Shrewsbury St.

Cemetery Registers Hartlepool 1929 Constance Maud Paylor abt 1923 Park Street


(from below link, if anything else there)

https://www.durhamrecordsonline.com/

Chris :)

The only marriage i can find for an Annie Hirst to a John Smith is this one.......

???

Marriages Dec 1892 (>99%)
Hirst Annie W. Ham 4a 323
SMITH John W. Ham 4a 323

It would have been a long way from Hartlepool to Essex!

I am working on a theory regarding John Smith.

Give some time to see if i can figure it out and i will get back to you.

Edit: I figured it out but, it turned out not to be your John Smith.

Hi prickely holly i am really grateful for all the info you have been able to send me .i have just tried to see if any john smiths on anyones tree but smith is a common name .thank you .

My pleasure.

Leah Hirst in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Leah Hirst
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Registration Year: 1903
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 69
Registration district: Hartlepool
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 10a

I will pop back later to see if you need any further help.

Prickles. ;o))

THANK YOU PRICKLY HOLLY .

Hi Jean

No......the Maguire Children are...

Hilary 1951

Philip T 1955


Yes.....Lucy's father was John Smith.

Prickles. ;o))

Yes leah hirst as been a busy lady .thank you prickely holly . think i have found the 2 maguire children kathleen and margaret ....was john smith lucys father born hartlepool . thank you .

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Woodhouse Terrace, Linthorpe, Stockton, Durham, England

Edwin Hirst Head - Male 29 1842 - Yorkshire, England
Transcription
Leah Hirst Wife - Female 36 1835 - Northumberland, England
Transcription
William Clementson Step-Son - Male 14 1857 - Northumberland, England
Transcription
Joseph A Clementson Step-Son - Male 12 1859 - Northumberland, England
Transcription
Elizabeth J Stobbs Step-Daughter - Female 8 1863 - Northumberland, England
Transcription
John Thomas Stobbs Step-Son - Male 6 1865 - Northumberland, England


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Grocers Shop, Poplar Grove, Stranton, Hartlepool, Durham, England

George Sanderson Head Married Male 32 1859 Grocers Master Yorkshire, England
Transcription
Elizabeth Jane Sanderson Wife Married Female 27 1864 - Northumberland, England
Transcription
George Sanderson Son Single Male 7 1884 - Durham, England
Transcription
May Sanderson Daughter Single Female 0 1891 - Durham, England
Transcription
Annie Hirst Sister In Law Single Female 19 1872 General Servant Yorkshire, England


Marriages Mar 1883 (>99%)
SANDERSON William Hartlepool 10a 175
STOBBS Elizabeth Jane Hartlepool 10a 175

Death of first husband......

Deaths Sep 1884 (>99%)
Sanderson William 35 Hartlepool 10a 64


2nd marriiage....

Marriages Jun 1886 (>99%)
SANDERSON Elizabeth Jane Hartlepool 10a 142
SANDERSON George Hartlepool 10a 142


William Sanderson in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995
Name: William Sanderson
Death Date: 6 Jul 1884
Death Place: Durham, England
Probate Date: 18 Jul 1884
Registry: Principal Registry

Late of West Hartlepool.....Clerk with the North Eastern Railway Company. Proved by Elizabeth Jane Sanderson of West Hartlepool..Widow.

Personal Estate: £286 16s 11d

Looking at the 1881 census........it seems Leah had more than her fair shair of marriages.

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Church Street, Stranton, Hartlepool, Durham, England

Leah Hirst Head Widow Female 46 1835 Dressmaker Allandale, Northumberland, England
Transcription
Joseph A Clemenson Son Single Male 22 1859 General Laborer Allandale, Northumberland, England
Transcription
John T Stobbs Son Single Male 16 1865 General Laborer Allandale, Northumberland, England
Transcription
Annie Hirst Daughter Single Female 9 1872 Scholar Middlesbrough, Yorkshire, England
Transcription
F Johnson Lodger Single Male 27 1854 Railway Porter York, Yorkshire, England


Marriages Mar 1856 (>99%)
Clementson Thomas Hexham 10b 293
Heatherington Leah Hexham 10b 293


Marriages Jun 1861 (>99%)
CLEMENTSON Leah Hexham 10b 364
STOBBS John Hexham 10b 364


Marriages Sep 1868 (>99%)
Hirst Edwin Stockton 10a 115
Stobbs Leah Stockton 10a 115

Also thank you to maddie and andrew .you have both been helpful .