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Mark

Mark Report 18 Aug 2017 19:05

in 1891 Joseph Greenwood aged 12 is show as grandson of the head of the house - that being Nancy Winder - my connection and her husband Thomas Gott - Residence Westmorland, England. The children of the above couple are

Mary Jane Gott 1861
Margaret 1863
Bestsy 1870
John 1871
Sarah 1874

Many thanks in advance

Rambling

Rambling Report 18 Aug 2017 19:15

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Berks, Farm Yard, Mansergh, Kendal, Westmorland, England


Thomas Gott Head Married Male 55 1836 Farmer Westmorland, England
Nancy Gott Wife Married Female 56 1835 - Westmorland, England
Bessie Gott Daughter Single Female 21 1870 - Yorkshire, England
John Gott Son Single Male 20 1871 - Yorkshire, England
Sarah Gott Daughter Single Female 17 1874 - Yorkshire, England
Joseph Greenwood Grandson Single Male 12 1879 Scholar -
William Jackson - Single Male 20 1871 Servant Westmorland, England
Jonathan Thornburrow - Single Male 14 1877 Servant Westmorland, England

Mark

Mark Report 18 Aug 2017 19:16

Yes Nyx that is the census I found him on - Thank you :-)

Rambling

Rambling Report 18 Aug 2017 19:22

Image seems to be Greenwood not Grimwood, born Liverpool

Rambling

Rambling Report 18 Aug 2017 19:30

This would seem to be him in 1901 confirming Liverpool as POB but not yet found him in 1881 or parents

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Holt Riddings Farm, Kirkby Lonsdale, Kendal, Westmorland, England


Robert Lucas Jolleys Head Married Male 46 1855 Farmer Ellel, Lancashire, England
Mary Downham Jolleys Wife Married Female 46 1855 - Quernmore, Lancashire, England
Margaret Elenior Jolleys Daughter Single Female 17 1884 - Kirkby Lonsdale, Westmorland, England Transcription
John Jolleys Son Single Male 15 1886 Farmer's Son Kirkby Lonsdale, Westmorland, England
Richard Gardner Jolleys Son Single Male 13 1888 - Kirkby Lonsdale, Westmorland, England
William Jolleys Son - Male 8 1893 - Kirkby Lonsdale, Westmorland, England
Charles Robert Jolleys Son - Male 5 1896 - Kirkby Lonsdale, Westmorland, England
Joseph Greenwood Servant Single Male 22 1879 Ordinary Agricultural Laborer Liverpool, Lancashire, England <<<<<<

Rambling

Rambling Report 18 Aug 2017 19:33

Not with them in 1881

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Rash, Dent, Sedbergh, Yorkshire, England

Thomas Gott Head Married Male 45 1836 Farmer Of 44 Acres Westmorland, England
Nancy Gott Wife Married Female 46 1835 Farmers Wife Dent, Yorkshire, England
Mary Jane Gott Daughter Single Female 20 1861 Farmers Daughter Dent, Yorkshire, England
Margaret Gott Daughter Single Female 18 1863 Farmers Daughter Dent, Yorkshire, England
Betsy Gott Daughter Single Female 11 1870 Farmers Daughter Dent, Yorkshire, England
John Gott Son Single Male 10 1871 Farmers Son Dent, Yorkshire, England
Sarah Gott Daughter Single Female 7 1874 Farmers Daughter Dent, Yorkshire, England

Rambling

Rambling Report 18 Aug 2017 19:41

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Rash, Dent, Sedburgh, Yorkshire, England

Thomas Gott Head - Male 35 1836 - Westmorland, England
Nancy Gott Wife - Female 36 1835 - Westmorland, England
Ann Gott Daughter - Female 15 1856 - Yorkshire, England
Mary Jane Gott Daughter - Female 10 1861 - Yorkshire, England
Margaret Gott Daughter - Female 8 1863 - Yorkshire, England
Elizabeth Gott Daughter - Female 6 1865 - Yorkshire, England
Betsy Gott Daughter - Female 1 1870 - Yorkshire, England
John Gott Son - Male 0 1871 - Yorkshire, England
Isaac Pickthall Servant - Male 17 1854 - Yorkshire, England

Rambling

Rambling Report 18 Aug 2017 19:47

Daughters Ann and Mary Jane seem to be from first marriage

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
High Hollins, Moss, Sedbergh, Yorkshire, England

Thomas Gott Head Married Male 25 1836 Farmer Of 40 Acres Of Land Westmorland, England
Margaret Gott Wife Married Female 25 1836 Farmers Wife Dent, Yorkshire, England
Ann Gott Daughter - Female 5 1856 - Sedbergh, Yorkshire, England
Mary J Gott Daughter - Female 0 1861 - Sedbergh, Yorkshire, England
Mary Egglin Servant Unmarried Female 18 1843 House Servant Sedbergh, Yorkshire, England
John Sedgwick Servant Unmarried Male 16 1845 Farm Servant Sedbergh, Yorkshire, England

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 18 Aug 2017 19:51

Not seeing Joseph with mmn Gott on the gro record

There is this one though

GREENWOOD, BEN GOTT
GRO Reference: 1877 J Quarter in KEIGHLEY Volume 09A Page 222

Rambling

Rambling Report 18 Aug 2017 19:55

Marriages Sep 1867 (>99%)
Gott Thomas E. Ward 10b 781
Winder Nancy E.Ward 10b 781

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Walk, Ravenstonedale, East Ward, Westmorland, England

Richard Fothergill Head Unmarried Male 28 1833 ...Farmer 45 Acres Of Land Ravenstonedale, Westmorland, England Transcription
Nancy Winder Servant Unmarried Female 26 1835 Domestic Servant Ravenstonedale, Westmorland, England

Rambling

Rambling Report 18 Aug 2017 20:11

I don't know if this is relevant, needs checking ot but first marriage of Thomas Gott seems to be this one

Marriages Jun 1855 (>99%)
CAPSTICK Margaret Kendal 10b 809
GOTT Thomas Kendal 10b 809


Results:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
GOTT, MARGARET CAPSTICK Order
GRO Reference: 1862 D Quarter in SEDBERGH Volume 09A Page 2
GOTT, MARY=JANE CAPSTICK Order
GRO Reference: 1861 M Quarter in SEDBERGH Volume 09A Page 1

There is a Joseph Greenwood born 1878 West derby ( Liverpool ) whose mmn is given as Cabstick but I think it is Capstick, there are a couple of Capstick? Greenwood marriages in the Sedbergh district which 'might' tie in. If Joseph was not actually the grandson of Thomas and Nancy , but connected to his first wife Margaret Capstick....??

Rambling

Rambling Report 18 Aug 2017 20:15

GREENWOOD, JOSEPH HENRY CABSTICK Order
GRO Reference: 1878 J Quarter in WEST DERBY AND TOXTETH PARK Volume 08B Page 625

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
3, Prince Alfred Road, Wavertree, West Derby, Lancashire, England


John Greenwood Head Married Male 32 1849 Cow Keeper (Dairyman) Dent, Yorkshire, England
Anne Greenwood Wife Married Female 26 1855 - Dent, Yorkshire, England
Joseph H Greenwood Son Single Male 2 1879 - Wavertree, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth G Greenwood Sister Single Female 18 1863 - Dent, Yorkshire, England
Mary Gaffney Lodger Widow Female 69 1812 Charwoman Ireland


Marriages Dec 1877 (>99%)
CAPSTICK Annie Sedbergh 9a 1
Greenwood John Sedbergh 9a 1

Rambling

Rambling Report 18 Aug 2017 20:19

Ok so Annie Capstick who married Greenwood appears to be Margaret Gott's daughter born just before her marriage to Thomas?

CAPSTICK, ANN - Order
GRO Reference: 1855 J Quarter in SEDBERGH Volume 09A Page 1

Rambling

Rambling Report 18 Aug 2017 20:57

from Lancopc

Baptism: 6 Jul 1878 Holy Trinity, Wavertree, Lancashire, England
Joseph Henry Greenwood - [Child] of John Greenwood & Anne
Abode: Wavertree
Occupation: Cow Keeper
Baptised by: R. B. Lowe
Register: Baptisms 1843 - 1898, Page 202, Entry 1610
Source: LDS Film 2147886

Mark

Mark Report 19 Aug 2017 12:49

Thank you all for your assistance and help once more much appreciated.