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thomas family

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Maddie

Maddie Report 23 Aug 2017 14:38

i could really do with some help with this family please

1851 census
Bellcone House, Portland, Weymouth, Dorset, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Edward Thomas Head Married Male 50 1801 Stone Agent -
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Ellen Thomas Wife Married Female 49 1802 - London, England
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Edward Thomas Son Unmarried Male 25 1826 Stone Mason London, England
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Caroline Thomas Daughter Unmarried Female 22 1829 - London, England
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George Thomas Son Unmarried Male 19 1832 Stone Mason -
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Elizabeth Thomas Daughter Unmarried Female 15 1836 Dress Maker -
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William Thomas Son Unmarried Male 12 1839 Scholar -
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Charles Thomas Son Unmarried Male 9 1842 Scholar -
Transcription ---- born st pancras
Henry J Thomas Son Unmarried Male 5 1846 Scholar Portland, Dorset, England

census image says born Exeter
Edward Thomas
Gender Male
Baptism Date 29 Mar 1801
Baptism Place All Hallows On The Walls,Exeter,Devon,England
Father Edward Thomas
Mother Mary
FHL Film Number 917198

can't find a death or any details of his parents

he married 1824
Edward Thomas
Spouse Eleanor Harker
Record Type Marriage
Event Date 10 May 1824
Parish St Martin in the Fields, Westminster
Borough Westminster
Register Type Bishop's Transcript

I have managed to trace caroline, Wiliiam and HENRY j so any help with his wife and remaining children would be very welcome

Maddie



Andrew

Andrew Report 23 Aug 2017 15:06

This could be marriage for Elizabeth


Dorset, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921

Name: Elizabeth Thomas
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 19 Sep 1858
Marriage Place: Portland, Dorset, England
Spouse: Joseph Walker

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1858 (>99%)
Thomas Elizabeth Weymouth 5a 675
Walker Joseph Weymouth 5a 675

1861 with Henry Thomas

Name: Joseph Walker
Age: 28
Estimated birth year: 1833
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Walker
Gender: Male
Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Portland
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Weymouth
Sub-registration district: Isle of Portland
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 138
Piece: 1351
Folio: 15
Page Number: 26
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Walker 28
Elizabeth Walker 25
Caroline Walker 1
Henry J Thomas 16


Andy

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 23 Aug 2017 15:07

Could this be a posibility for Edward's father (Edward and Edmund were pretty much interchangeable in those days):-

England, Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Transcription
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First name(s) Edmund
Last name Thomas
Gender Male
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1770
Baptism date 11 Jan 1770
Place Exeter
County Devon
Country England
Father's first name(s) Edmund
Father's last name Thomas
Mother's first name(s) Grace
Mother's last name -
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975

Kath. x

Andrew

Andrew Report 23 Aug 2017 15:08

1871 for Elizabeth

Name: Joseph Walker
Age: 38
Estimated birth year: abt 1833
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Walker
Gender: Male
Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Coppenhall Monks
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Crewe
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Registration district: Nantwich
Sub-registration district: Wybunbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Household schedule number: 30
Piece: 3709
Folio: 164
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Walker 38
Elizabeth Walker 35
Caroline Eleanor Walker 11

Andy

alviegal

alviegal Report 23 Aug 2017 15:13

Charles perhaps?


1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

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First name(s) Charles
Last name Thomas
Relationship Convict
Marital status -
Gender Male
Age 29
Birth year 1842
Occupation -
Birth town -
Birth county Middlesex
Birth county as transcribed MIDDLESEX
Birth place England
House name -
Street Portland Convi Court Establishment (For Male Convicts), Portland, Dorset
Parish Portland
Town -
City -
County Dorset
Country England
Registration district Weymouth
Archive reference RG10
Piece number 2007
Folio 4
Page 2

Andrew

Andrew Report 23 Aug 2017 15:17

Possible death for Eleanor?


Results:
Name: Age at Death (in years):
THOMAS, ELEANOR 55
GRO Reference: 1857 D Quarter in WEYMOUTH Volume 05A Page 221


Andy

alviegal

alviegal Report 23 Aug 2017 15:23

Edward?


1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
5, College Street, Lambeth, London, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Edward Thomas Head Married Male 35 1826 Stone Carver London, Middlesex, England
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Ann Marie Thomas Wife Married Female 26 1835 - London, Middlesex, England
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Ellen Thomas Daughter - Female 7 1854 Scholar London, Middlesex, England
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Edward Thomas Son - Male 6 1855 Scholar London, Middlesex, England
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Alfred Thomas Son - Male 3 1858 Scholar London, Middlesex, England
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Charles Thomas Son - Male 1 1860 Scholar London, Middlesex, England



1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Cornwall Road John Street, Lambeth, London, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Ann M Thomas Lodger widow- Female 35 1836 - Suffolk, England
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Edward Thomas Son - Male 15 1856 - London, Middlesex, England
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Alfred Thomas Son - Male 13 1858 - London, Middlesex, England
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Charles Thomas Son - Male 11 1860 - London, Middlesex, England
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Samuel Thomas Son - Male 7 1864 - London, Middlesex, England



Edward's death?


First name(s) EDWARD
Last name THOMAS
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1827
Age 41
Death quarter 1
Death year 1868
District Lambeth
County London
Volume 1D
Page 180

alviegal

alviegal Report 23 Aug 2017 15:29

Both of George Street.


Westminster Marriages Transcription

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First name(s) Edward
Last name Thomas, mason
Age Full
Residence -
Marriage year 1855
Parish St Martin-In-The-Fields
Spouse's first name(s) Mary Ann
Spouse's last name Shipway
Spouse age Full
Father's first name(s) Edward
Father's last name Thomas, stone agent
Spouse's father's first name(s) Joseph
Spouse's father's last name Shipway, bricklayer
County Middlesex
Country England

Maddie

Maddie Report 23 Aug 2017 16:03

thankyou, looking good

alviegal

alviegal Report 23 Aug 2017 16:10

Marriage for Caroline.


Dorset Marriages Transcription

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First name(s) Caroline
Last name Thomas
Sex Female
Marital status Single
Age 27
Birth year 1830
Marriage year 1857
Marriage date 14 Jun 1857
Marriage place Portland, St John
Father's first name(s) Edward
Father's last name Thomas
Spouse's first name(s) George
Spouse's last name Harvey
Spouse's sex Male
Spouse's marital status Single
Spouse's age 23
Spouse's birth year 1834
Spouse's father's first name(s) Thomas Hett
Spouse's father's last name Harvey
County Dorset
Country England

alviegal

alviegal Report 23 Aug 2017 16:14


1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Fortunes Well, Portland, Weymouth, Dorset, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Harvey Head - Male 36 1835 - Dorset, England
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>>Caroline Harvey Wife - Female 38 1833 - London, Middlesex, England
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Thomas Hitt Harvey Son - Male 12 1859 - Dorset, England
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Carrie Elenior Harvey Daughter - Female 8 1863 - Dorset, England
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John Cresswell Harvey Son - Male 6 1865 - Dorset, England
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Harold Montrose Harvey Son - Male 4 1867 - Dorset, England
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Minnie Harvey Daughter - Female 1 1870 - Dorset, England
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William Miller Lodger - Male 23 1848 - Lincolnshire, England
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Harriett Harden Servant - Female 15 1856 - Dorset, England

Maddie

Maddie Report 23 Aug 2017 16:16

thanks avilgail
have got caroline
trying to find her ancestors

alviegal

alviegal Report 23 Aug 2017 16:32

George perhaps? Discharge in 1862.


British Army Service Records 1760-1915 Transcription

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First name(s) George
Last name Thomas
Birth year 1833
Birth parish St James
Birth town Dorchester
Birth county Dorset
Birth country England
Service number 13540
Rank GUNNER
Regiment Royal Reg Of Artillery
Year 1858
Attestation date 23 Sep 1858
Attestation age years 25
Discharge corps Royal Reg Of Artillery
Discharge service number 13540
Document type Discharge
Series Wo 97 - Chelsea Pensioners British Army Service Records 1760-1913


He intended to live in St Helier, Jersey.



This may be him if he never got to Jersey.



England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription
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First name(s) GEORGE
Last name THOMAS
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1834
Age 37
Death quarter 2
Death year 1871
District Weymouth
County Dorset
Volume 5A
Page 227

Maddie

Maddie Report 23 Aug 2017 16:49

i have a feeling george was born in london as they moved to portland between 1841 and 1851 but can,t find a baptism for him

maybe this is him
two of his siblings were in the 1891 England Census

View 1891 England Census
Name: George Thomas
Gender: Male
Age: 58
Relationship: Pauper
Birth Year: 1833
Birth Place: St Pancras, London, England
Civil Parish: Hackney
Ecclesiastical parish: Homerton St Barnabas
Residence Place: London, Hackney, London, England
Registration district: Hackney
Sub registration district: Hackney
ED, Institution or Vessel: Hackney Union Workhouse
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 203
Folio: 77born st pancras


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