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I have Sophia Riches c1830 born Norwich, 6th Jan 1846 given 2 months prison for Larceny, 1847 given 7 years for Larceny & felony transported to Van Demons Land 1848 where she married a Henry Webster in 1849 who had also been transported from the uk.
records appear to have one or two Sophia Riches born around the same period, would appreciate help in finding the correct parents, my assumption is Charles Riches, 1806 Wrentham & Elizabeth Bishop, 1816 Little Melton, as on the 1841 census with a Sophia dob 1831, but baptism given as 9/2/1830 at St. peter mancroft Norwich. Several Tree's on Ancestry have confusing parent lines, Any help much appreciated to point in the right direction to purchase birth certificate.
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Is this the Sophia that you think is "yours":-
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Shuttle Yard, Heigham, Norwich, Norfolk, England
First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
Charles Riches Male 35 1806 -
Elizabeth Riches Female 25 1816 Norfolk, England
Sophia Riches Female 11 1830 Norfolk, England
Elizabeth Riches Female 7 1834 Norfolk, England
Jemima Bishop Female 55 1786 Norfolk, England
There is another Sophia Riches born c.1832 but she is also on the 1851 census in Norfolk so can't be the one transported in 1848.
I think you are correct in thinking that "your" Sophia was the daughter of Charles and Elizabeth.
There will not be a birth certificate as civil registration did not start until July 1837 so only baptism records available before that date. Think this is the baptism (in 1831 not 1830):-
Norfolk baptisms Transcription
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First name(s) Sophia
Last name Riches
Sex Female
Birth year 1831
Birth date 28 Jan 1831
Baptism year 1831
Baptism date 09 Feb 1831
Father's first name(s) Charles
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
Parish Norwich, St Peter Mancroft
Diocese Norwich
County Norfolk
Country England
Archive Norfolk Record Office
Archive reference PD 26/5
Page 62
Record set Norfolk Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Kath. x
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Would Full Age be 21 ?
Yes Kath, thats the one i am leaning to.
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Full age should be 21 at that time but people lied about their age quite often on marriage certificates.
Kath. x
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Thanks, Kath, as they had to get permission to marry being (convicts) you would have thought the authority's would have checked her age ?
I did see the other one that was still in the uk on the 1851 census, in fact a couple of tree's on Ancestry have this one as her parents !~!
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A few Newspaper items relate.
Chris :)
08 May 1847 - Norfolk News - Norwich, Norfolk, England
Sophia Riches, of St. Benedict's, was committed for trial charge of having stolen quantity of brass...
(from a Matthew Blyth of St. Martin at Palace)
09 October 1847 - Norfolk News - Norwich, Norfolk, England
Removal of Convicts from our City Jail.
On Wednesday, following convicts were removed from our jail to the Milbank receiving prison'
Eli Angell, aged 14, Sophia Riches, aged 17, and Caroline Tuck, aged 14, convicted of felony.
https://linctas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/all/search/results?qu=sophia&qu=webster&rw=12
(Marriage image above, from below, Tasmanian Names Index)
https://linctas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/names/?
Tasmania Deaths 1803-1933 Kingston, Tasmania, Australia (Find My Past)
Webster Sophia Elizabeth 1828 1899
(Died 24th, November, near Kingston. Born England. Bronchitis and Cardiac dropsy
https://tinyurl.com/yccyhyw4
(Death Announcement, notes there is also another Sophia E Webster, Death March 1899 (wife of a William) if people are getting muddled!)
County Norfolk
Place Little Melton
Church name All Saints
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 23
Marriage date 28 Oct 1830
Groom forename Charles
Groom surname RICHES
Groom condition single
Groom parish St Andrews in Norwich
Bride forename Elizabeth
Bride surname BISHOP
Bride condition single
Witness Thos FORSTER
Witness Saml HIPPERSON
Register note The date 28th October seems to have been blotted out but is still readable. Bride signs X
(Marriage reference, from below link)
https://www.freereg.org.uk/
Edits (that Mattew Blyth below, mentioned in robbery)
18 November 1854 - Norfolk Chronicle - Norwich, Norfolk, England
Death
Mr. Matthew Blyth (61) at his residence, St. Martin's at Palace.
(notes also 1841, St. Benedict's, as in newspaper item, her below!)
1841 (Find My Past)
William Richer Male 35 1806 Norfolk, England
Thomasine Richer Female 30 1811 Norfolk, England
William Richer Male 8 1833 Norfolk, England
Sophia Richer Female 7 1834 Norfolk, England
Barn Road, St Benedict, Norwich, Norfolk
(No, she is still there 1851)
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Many Thanks Chris Ho,
Have all i need for Australia, it's the uk side of her that i am looking for,
The Norfolk News info is greatly appreciated also her parents marriage.
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Using:
https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1®ion=UNITED_KINGDOM_IRELAND
The baptism isn't indexed, but the FreeREG info posted by Kath allows one to browse the images and find it.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-62KC-9XS?i=33&wc=71XH-71P%3A29967401%2C29359202%2C30168201&cc=1416598
The OPR for All Saints, Little Melton isn't online.
This is from the Norfolk BTs - the Bishop's Transcripts were the church's own backup copy.
The BTs give the date as 29/11/1930.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:27CJ-WPD [with image link]
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