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I found a marriage for Leo James Gillen to a Norah O'Connor in 1920,in Hartlepool.
I've been unable to find where she was born. Could anybody help,please,or does it
mean the only way to prove it is to have the marriage certificate?

Yours,Terry L.

The 1939 register gives her DOB so you may be able to find her birth from that or find her on the 1911 census

Gillen Household (3 People)
25 Outram Street , West Hartlepool C.B., Durham, England

Norah Gillen 05 Jan 1896 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 140 2
Leo (James) Gillen 11 Dec 1923 Male Apprentice Armature Winder & Electrician Married 140 1
Leo (James) Gillen 05 Nov 1892 Male (Repairs) Locomotive Fitter Lner Heavy Worker Single 140 3

Have you checked the 1911 Irish census .the surname sounds Irish

Think you do need the marriage cert for her fathers name otherwise it's just guesswork

Thanks for replies.Will check things out.
Terry L

There is this birth. No way of telling if relates to your Nora.

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Mar 1896 (>99%)
Connor Norah Sunderland 10a 666

and 1901

Name: Norah Connor
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1897
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Father: Charles Connor
Mother: Mary A Connor
Birth Place: Sunderland, Durham, England
Civil Parish: West Hartlepool
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Ecclesiastical parish: West Hartlepool St James
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Hartlepool
Sub-registration district: Hartlepool
ED, institution, or vessel: 68
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4642
Folio: 95
Page Number: 4
Household schedule number: 23
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Connor 40
Mary A Connor 40
Edward Connor 14
Mary E Connor 11
Norah Connor 4
Margaret Connor 2

1911

28 Bowser Street West Hartlepool

Mary Ann Connor 52
Mary Ellen Connor 21
Joseph Connor 18
Norah Connor 15
Margart Jane Connor 12
Charles Connor 10

Andy

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Norah O Connor
in the Web: Ireland, Census, 1901
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Name: Norah O Connor
Gender: Female
Age: 5
Birth Year: abt 1896
Relation to Head: Niece
Residence Date: 31 Mar 1901
Townland/Street: Vicarstown
District: Matehy
County: Cork
Household Members:
Name Age
Callaghan Mc Carthy 60
Bridget Mc Carthy 17
Charles Mc Carthy 15
Jeremiah Mc Carthy 12
Julia Mc Carthy 10
Norah O Connor 5
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Norah O Connor
in the Web: Ireland, Census, 1911

Name: Norah O Connor
Gender: Female
Age: 16
Birth Year: abt 1895
Relation to Head: Servant
Residence Date: 2 Apr 1911
Townland/Street: Church Street
District: Newmarket
County: Cork
Household Members:
Name Age
David Allen 38
Catherine Allen 25
Richard Allen 1
Norah O Connor 16
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Norah Oconnor
in the Web: Ireland, Census, 1911

Name: Norah Oconnor
Gender: Female
Age: 15
Birth Year: abt 1896
Relation to Head: Daughter
Residence Date: 2 Apr 1911
Townland/Street: Glasthule Road
District: Kingstown No. 4
County: Dublin
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Oconnor 44
Denis Victor Oconnor 22
Gladys Oconnor 18
Norah Oconnor 15
URL: http://www.census.nationalarch...

Once again,many thanks to you researchers.I will try to contact some family members and see if they can verify any of the info' you've provided me with.
Many thanks,Terry L.

Don't discount the Sunderland born Norah Connor- the family were also known as O'Connor


When Norah's son is born, her maiden name is listed as Connor.
Births Dec 1923
Gillen Leo (mother's maiden name: Connor)
Hartlepool 10a 241
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When the mother of Norah (born Sunderland) dies, she is listed as Connor in the Death index, but O'Connor in the paper:

Hartlepool Northern Daily Mail - Monday 02 August 1926

O'CONNOR. —On the 31st ult., at 26 Bowser Street, Mary Ann, wife of the late Charles O'Connor.— Cortege to leave the above address at 2-30 pm. on Wednesday.—Friends and neighbours please accept this (the only) intimation. RIP,

Thanks for that, AustinQ .I had found the difference in the son's birth record and her Marriage to Leo Gillen but not the death of Mary Ann record. Strange, but as you say it seems to be the same family I was searching for.

All the best,Terry L.

Terence .There is plenty on the Google search engine re Gillens of Hartlepool...Leo J and Leo jnr.

Leo J.was the son of Peter Gillen and Ellen Coyne.....The following is 1881..son Patrick T was under a year old but b Hebburn

Name Peter Gillen
Event Type Census
Event Date 1881
Event Place Hedworth And Monkton And Jarrow, Durham, England
Registration District South Shields
Residence Note Lyon Lane
Gender Male
Age 23
Marital Status (Original) Married
Occupation Chemical Lab
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1858
Birthplace Ireland
Page Number 37
Registration Number RG11
Piece/Folio 5028/61
Affiliate Record Type Household

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Reference:
WO 409/27/102/366

Title:
Leo Gillen

Description:
Leo Gillen - born 11/10/1923, West Hartlepool - Durham Home Guard, 104th Battalion

Date:
1940-1945

Held by:
The National Archives

Legal status:
Public Record

Closure status:
Open Document, Open Description

Access conditions:
Closed Until 2012

Record opening date:
07 March 2013

Thanks once again,everybody.
Terry L