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Hello, i have posted before re mary Ann but wonder if there is anyone who can find out any information about her. I think Mary was born 1902, don't know exactly when. She was born in county durham. Her dad was Thomas Pickering, and her mum Susannah Thompson.

Mary was my dad's mum. He is now in his 80s. he was later adopted. I have looked backwards in Mary's tree, but this is difficult because she seems to be part of an illegitimate side of the family.

I would like to know if she married, and had children of possible. I was once told dad had two brothers. Dad has Alzheimer's, and endlessly tries to put his life in place. It would be nice to have some idea who his, our family are.

So thought I would have another try. Lynn

My post on this was 3 January 2016. Sorry don't know how to link them.

Lynn, could you please post a link to the original query ( or add this query to it) otherwise helpers will just spend time duplicating searches already done :-)

This one

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1357032

There is probate, grant and will, for a Mary Ann Black died 6th October 1998, and registry of Newcastle Upon Tyne. (Might not be her)

Worth applying for it for more information?

I came across this but did not think it was the right mary ann.

My previous post was 3 January 2016. I don't know how to link the posts.

Lynn

Well it appears to be?

From the other thread

Dad was born 122 lower Clapton road hackney, 7 May 1934.
His mum was Mary Ann pickering, occupation General cook. There is an address 4 Don crescent, Chester le street, greater lumley co Durham.

"When using the birth date of 16th March 1902 to search the 1939 Register, Mary Ann Black of the Chester-le-Street address posted previously gives that birth date


1939 REGISTER

Elizabeth Bell 1859 Chester-le-Street R.D. Durham

Elizabeth Bell 1888 Chester-le-Street R.D. Durham

>>>>>>Mary Ann Black 1902 Chester-le-Street R.D. Durham

Annie Pickering 1875 Chester-le-Street R.D. Durham

Frederick Pickering 1898 Chester-le-Street R.D. Durham

Robert Pickering 1870 Chester-le-Street R.D. Durham


??

Marriages Mar 1947 (>99%)

Black William R Pickering Durham N. 1a 922

Pickering Mary A Black Durham N. 1a 922

Nyx has linked it for you.

Why do you think it is the wrong Mary Ann?

If you got her death certificate that would have her date of death to cross-check.

Where/How do you know that Mary Ann Pickering's parents were Thomas & Susannah Pickering (nee Thompson)?

Edit:
Birth reg:

PICKERING, MARY ANN mother's maiden name THOMPSON
GRO Reference: 1902 S Quarter in HOUGHTON-LE-SPRING Volume 10A Page 530

There do not appear to be any Black/Pickering births showing on free bmd.

Source of confusion?

GRO gives:

PICKERING, MARY ANN mmn ATKINSON
GRO Reference: 1902 J Quarter in CHESTER LE STREET Volume 10A Page 604

PICKERING, MARY ANN mmn THOMPSON
GRO Reference: 1902 S Quarter in HOUGHTON-LE-SPRING Volume 10A Page 530

1939 family in 1911
Mary Ann Pickering
Age in 1911: 9 Estimated birth year: abt 1902
Relation to Head: Daughter Gender: Female
Birth Place: Birtley, Durham, England Civil Parish: Birtley
County/Island: Durham Country: England
Street address: 54 Morris Street. Birtley S.o Registration district: Chester le Street
Registration District Number: 554 Sub-registration district: Harraton
ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Piece: 30123
Robert Pickering 40
Annie Pickering 34
Frederick Pickering 12
John Pickering 11 (not with them in 1939)
Mary Ann Pickering 9
Class: RG14; Piece: 30123

Did see both of those but on other thread is this family in the 1911 cnesus:

Possibly Mary Ann's family. At least it fits that 1902 birth, as Birtley is in Chester-le-Street reg district.


Mary Ann Pickering
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Mary Ann Pickering
Age in 1911: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1902
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Birtley, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Birtley
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address: 54 Morris Street. Birtley S.o
Registration district: Chester le Street
Registration District Number: 554
Sub-registration district: Harraton
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Piece: 30123
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Pickering 40 - boot salesman, born Sherburn, East Riding Yorkshire
Annie Pickering 34
Frederick Pickering 12
John Pickering 11
Mary Ann Pickering 9

All family except Robert, born Birtley.

Parents married 13 years, 3 children, all living.




Marriage for this couple:

Marriages Dec 1897
Atkinson Annie CHESTER LE STREET 10a 823
Pickering Robert CHESTER LE STREET. 10a 823


so which Mary Ann Pickering are we looking for, daughter of Thomas & Susannah or Robert and Annie??

PICKERING, FREDERICK mmn ATKINSON Order
GRO Reference: 1898 J Quarter in CHESTER LE STREET Volume 10A Page 585

It's just an observation, but at 32 Mary Ann was quite old to have not been married, or had a previous child. Just thinking that rather than having had children within the marriage to Mr Black she may have had children before that??

edit, there are a number of Pickering/Pickering births before and after Clive's in Hackney.

Thanks everyone, it looks like you have followed my thoughts. Which must be good, shows i just be doing the right things.

The reason I went for the Thomas and Susannah parents for mary is they had a daughter adelaide, who married george miller, and dad remembers visiting a family called miller. It is one of his few remaining memories. :-)

Have you done/applied for an ER search to see who is living at '4 Don crescent, Chester le street, greater lumley co Durham' around 1934?

Is that memory of Adelaide marrying a Miller from when your Father was 3?