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Dorothy

Dorothy Report 8 Nov 2017 23:01

Oops sorry. Didnt see that part. Thank you xxx.

Dorothy

Dorothy Report 8 Nov 2017 22:54

Thank You. Didnt know it was Pickervance.
Can you tell if he married again after leaving my gran
Thank you so much x

Rambling

Rambling Report 7 Nov 2017 17:16

death

First name(s) ELIZABETH ANN
Last name PICKAVANCE
Gender Female
Birth day 6
Birth month 3
Birth year 1902
Age -
Death quarter 2
Death year 1985
District Chorley
Register number 685
County Lancashire
Volume 40
Page 1381
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007

Rambling

Rambling Report 7 Nov 2017 17:14

Probable death for Thomas

England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
First name(s) THOMAS
Last name PICKAVANCE
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1899
Age 46
Death quarter 2
Death year 1945
District Chorley
County Lancashire
Volume 8E
Page 416
Country England

Rambling

Rambling Report 7 Nov 2017 17:12

There is one child to that marriage, who is probably the closed record on the 1939

Births Mar 1925 (>99%)
Pickavance John A Arrowsmith Chorley

Rambling

Rambling Report 7 Nov 2017 17:09

Likely to be this marriage

Marriages Sep 1923 (>99%)
Arrowsmith Elizabeth A Pickavance Chorley 8e 1320
Pickavance Thomas Arrowsmith Chorley 8e 1320

Rambling

Rambling Report 7 Nov 2017 17:08

This one on 1939 register matches birth date

Pickavance Household (3 People)
11 Carr Lane , Chorley M.B., Lancashire, England

Thomas Pickavance 27 Mar 1899 Male Public Works Contractors Labourer Heavy Worker Married 137 1
Elizabeth A Pickavance 06 Mar 1902 Female Cotton Weaver Married 137 2
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.

Rambling

Rambling Report 7 Nov 2017 17:06

For reference

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
28 Ormandys Houses Wigan, Wigan, Lancashire, England

John Pickavance Head Married Male Underground Labourer Coalmine 34 1877 Lancs Wigan
Clara Pickavance Wife Married Female - 35 1876 Lancs Wigan
George Pickavance Son - Male Underground Labourer Coal Mine 13 1898 Lancs Wigan
Thomas Pickavance Son - Male Scholar 12 1899 Lancs Wigan
John Pickavance Son - Male Scholar 9 1902 Lancs Wigan
Selina Pickavance Daughter - Female - 2 1909 Lancs Wigan
Mary And Clara Pickavance Daughter - Female - 0 1911 Lancs Wigan
James Pickavance Son - Male - 4 1907 Lancs Wigan
James Leck Boarder Single Male Coal Miner Hewer 22 1889 Lancs Wigan

It does look as though they also used the spelling Pickervance
so may need to look at that also

Baptism: 30 Aug 1899 St James, Poolstock, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Thomas Pickervance - [Child] of John Pickervance & Clara
Born: 27 Mar 1899
Abode: 8 Ormandy's Houses
Occupation: Miner
Baptised by: E. L. Bull Curate
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives

Dorothy

Dorothy Report 7 Nov 2017 16:59

The record l have for Grans husband is from the 1911 census.
Thomas Pickavance, 28 Ormandys houses, Wigan
Reg district 458 Sub district 3 Archive Ref RG14.
He was stationed in Oswestry where he married Gran in 1918
They moved to Wigan and had my mum, Doris Mary in 1920
And later Harriet in 1922 who died 2 years later.
He left gran and l have no idea if he remarried or had further children.
Considering he is actually my grandfather l know nothing at all about him
Would appreciate any information. Thanks

Kay????

Kay???? Report 4 Nov 2017 23:59

Thomas Pickavance 1876 Ryton U. D. Durham
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Thomas Pickavance 1885 Liverpool C.B. Lancashire
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Thomas Pickavance 1885 Ormskirk U.D. Lancashire
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Thomas Pickavance 1893 St Helens C.B. Lancashire
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Thomas Pickavance 1899 Chorley M.B. Lancashire
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These are from the 1939 register who could fit in an age bracket.knowing his age in 1918 would help..
Also if Emily May remarried it may help give a timeline to any re-marriage for Thomas.

Dorothy

Dorothy Report 4 Nov 2017 22:01

Thanks genes. caught.up with my new cousins now and exchanged information.

just on thing now that l would love to know

what happened to grans husband Thomas Pickavance.
did he remarry or have other children
I believe he died in wigan in 1949

Dorothy

Dorothy Report 4 Nov 2017 22:01

Thanks genes. caught.up with my new cousins now and exchanged information.

just on thing now that l would love to know

what happened to grans husband Thomas Pickavance.
did he remarry or have other children
I believe he died in wigan in 1949

Rambling

Rambling Report 1 Nov 2017 22:08

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1368572

This is the thread I was referring to hope it clarifies things a bit :-)

Dorothy

Dorothy Report 1 Nov 2017 20:46

Sorry l didnt realise about the other threads now deleted.
Thank you clearing up about Harriet x

Rambling

Rambling Report 1 Nov 2017 11:26

have a look at the other thread Dorothy,

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Sadly Harriett died aged 2

England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription
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First name(s) HARRIET A
Last name PICKAVANCE
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1922
Age 2
Death quarter 2
Death year 1924
District Wigan
County Lancashire
Volume 8C
Page 104
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from Great Britain, England


Dorothy

Dorothy Report 1 Nov 2017 11:18

Oh my goodness what stars you are
Do l read right that Harriet was mums full sister..Any idea what happened to her?.
Can l find out if she lived, and if so did she go in the childrens home at Fazackerley.
I havent been able to contact annyone to get details of why mum went in there.
I know she went in at two years old.

Thomas Edward ( Uncle Ted) is in the 1911 census living with Grans parents
Hes down as a 3 mo th old grandson.

Thank you so much, i would never have found this by myself

Kay????

Kay???? Report 1 Nov 2017 10:21

Message sent to return to thread,


Good Luck Dorothy with newly found relatives.

Dea

Dea Report 1 Nov 2017 09:39

This appears to be the telephone number:

Our head office

If you would like to contact any of the teams at our head office in London please call 020 7841 4400.

Our address is:
The Children's Society
Edward Rudolf House
Margery Street
London WC1X 0JL

Dea x

Ru

Ru Report 1 Nov 2017 08:55

Some information which may/may not help: my relative was connected with the Waifs and Strays Society - also went to Canada to work on a farm. To get further information on my uncle I wrote to The Children's Society, Edward Rudolph House, Margery Street, London, WC1X 0JL.
They were very helpful - you may like to contact them as they held the information on my uncle - from his inclusion with the Waifs and Strays Society and it gave me the background to his early life.
There were forms to complete and you may be required (as I was) to give information regarding the connection to such a person or persons, but I found it well worth the effort.
I am not in England, but if you are, a quick call would give an answer to any query you may have as to whether they hold any information on your family member or not.
Good luck.
Peahen
p.s. I am sorry I do not have a phone number for the Society, but it may be in a telephone book.

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 1 Nov 2017 08:41

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1368572

"Looking for relatives of Emily May Oakley born 1892 in Montgomeryshire, Shropshire, England. My father, William Norman Oakley, born in 1916 in Oswestry, Shropshire was her son. There is no father's name on his birth certificate."

I take it this is the person that contacted you? It sounds as if they have the birth certificate.