Edgar, Arthur & Flora Hesse??

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Member Since: May 2003 Posts: 858 Send Message	Marcus	Report	3 Nov 2017 16:04
Member Since: May 2003 Posts: 858 Send Message	Am looking into children of Frederick Hesse & wife - Mary Ann Butler. Looking back at some old research, I found the above Edgar b1870, Arthur b1876 & Flora Hesse b1878 Hackney area of London. I now cannot find then, nor tie them into this family. I have other children to Frederick b1830 & Mary b1839 - Frederick 1854 Mary 1856 Henry 1858 Eliza 1860 Sarah 1862 Alfred 1867 All born in the Hackney area. Don't know why I should have these 3 'extra' sibling. Can anyone please help??
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	3 Nov 2017 16:15
	1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 10, Cobden Terrace, Hackney, London & Middlesex, England Frederick Hesse Head Married Male 32 1829 Cabinet Maker Master Hackney, Middlesex, England Transcription Mary A Hesse Wife - Female 33 1828 - Hackney, Middlesex, England Transcription Frederick Hesse Son - Male 7 1854 Scholar Hackney, Middlesex, England Transcription Mary Ann Hesse Daughter - Female 5 1856 Scholar Hackney, Middlesex, England Transcription Henry Hesse Son - Male 3 1858 - Hackney, Middlesex, England Transcription Eliza Hesse Daughter - Female 0 1861 - Hackney, Middlesex, England Transcription Stephen Harris - Unmarried Male 16 1845 Apprentice - 1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Kings Road Whils Cottages, Hackney, London & Middlesex, England Frederick Hesse Head - Male 42 1829 Fancy Cabinet Maker Middlesex, England Transcription Mary Ann Hesse Wife - Female 42 1829 - Middlesex, England Transcription Frederick Hesse Son - Male 17 1854 - Middlesex, England Transcription Mary Ann Hesse Daughter - Female 13 1858 - Middlesex, England Transcription Henry Hesse Son - Male 13 1858 - Middlesex, England Transcription Sarah Hesse Daughter - Female 8 1863 - Middlesex, England Transcription Alfred Hesse Son - Male 4 1867 - Middlesex, England 1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 63, Digby Road, Hackney, London & Middlesex, England Frederick Hesse Head Married Male 52 1829 Fancy Cabinet Maker Hackney, Middlesex, England Transcription Mary Ann Hesse Wife Married Female 52 1829 - Hackney, Middlesex, England Transcription Mary Ann Hesse Daughter Single Female 25 1856 Mantle Maker Hackney, Middlesex, England Transcription Sarah Hesse Daughter Single Female 18 1863 - Hackney, Middlesex, England Transcription Alfred Hesse Son Single Male 14 1867 Office Boy Hackney, Middlesex, England
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Member Since: December 2009 Posts: 13,422 Send Message	Maddie	Report	3 Nov 2017 16:17
	me: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order: HESSE, ARTHUR CHARLES CUMMING Order GRO Reference: 1878 D Quarter in WEST HAM UNION Volume 04A Page 167 Order HESSEY, ARTHUR ROSE Order GRO Reference: 1874 J Quarter in MARYLEBONE Volume 01A Page 510 HESSE, ARTHUR HERBERT CRAWFORD Order GRO Reference: 1866 M Quarter in HACKNEY Volume 01B Page 446
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	3 Nov 2017 16:51
	No births registered for an Edgar or Flora Hesse with the dates you gave.
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	greyghost	Report	3 Nov 2017 17:07
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	?? If you're a decade out with the dates then there are these 2 with mmn Crawford which would go with the Arthur posted by PH and if Flora is Florence Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order: HESSE, EDGAR ARTHUR CRAWFORD Order GRO Reference: 1861 M Quarter in HACKNEY Volume 01B Page 352 Order Results: Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order: HESSE, FLORENCE ARMINELL CRAWFORD Order GRO Reference: 1867 J Quarter in HACKNEY Volume 01B Page 461 Order
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	greyghost	Report	3 Nov 2017 17:12
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Ordell Road, St Mary Stratford Bow, Poplar, London & Middlesex, England First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place George Hesse Head - Male 44 1827 - Middlesex, England Mary A Hesse Wife - Female 44 1827 - Middlesex, England Francis G Hesse Son - Male 20 1851 - Middlesex, England Emily A Hesse Daughter - Female 18 1853 - Middlesex, England Walter H Hesse Son - Male 16 1855 - Middlesex, England Athera E Hesse Daughter - Female 12 1859 - Middlesex, England Edgar A Hesse Son - Male 10 1861 - Middlesex, England Ernest J Hesse Son - Male 7 1864 - Middlesex, England Arthur H Hesse Son - Male 5 1866 - Middlesex, England Florence A Hesse Daughter - Female 3 1868 - Middlesex, England Can't read where Father George was born. Mother Mary b St Lukes and all children Hackney
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	greyghost	Report	3 Nov 2017 17:19
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	? The connection - cousins? Fathers were brothers 1841 - England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Grove Street, Hackney, South, Hackney, London & Middlesex, England First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place Benjamin Hesse Male 55 1786 Middlesex, England Transcription Elizabeth Hesse Female 50 1791 Middlesex, England Transcription John Hesse Male 20 1821 Middlesex, England Transcription Maria Hesse Female 17 1824 Middlesex, England Transcription Benjamin Hesse Male 15 1826 Middlesex, England Transcription George Hesse Male 14 1827 Middlesex, England Transcription Frederick Hesse Male 11 1830 Middlesex, England Transcription
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	greyghost	Report	3 Nov 2017 17:33
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	The other 2 brothers from the 1841 census. A cabinet making family! 1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription George Street, Hackney, London & Middlesex, England First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Hesse Head Married Male 34 1817 Cabinet Maker Bishopsgate, Middlesex, England Eliza Hesse Wife Married Female 50 1801 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England John Hesse Son - Male 8 1843 - Middlesex, England Eliza Hesse Daughter - Female 6 1845 - Middlesex, England Emily Hesse Daughter - Female 4 1847 - Knightsbridge, Middlesex, England Benjamin Hesse Son - Male 2 1849 - Hackney, Middlesex, England --------------------- 1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription West Street, Saint John Hackney, Hackney, London & Middlesex, England First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Benjamin Hesse Head Unmarried Male 26 1825 Cabinet Maker Master App Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Elizabeth Hesse Sister Unmarried Female 36 1815 - Bishopsgate, Middlesex, England
Member Since: May 2003 Posts: 858 Send Message	Marcus	Report	3 Nov 2017 18:49
Member Since: May 2003 Posts: 858 Send Message	Thanks everybody for your help! It looks like I have added them at some point ages ago, and not bothered to check until now! Lesson learned.......

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