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James Bagnell (or Bagnall) was born in Dublin. On his English census forms his year of birth year ranges from 1847 to 1852.

He married his wife Mary in Ireland, probably in Dublin, where his wife was born between 1846 and 1849.

They had the following children;-
Sophia Bagnell (Dublin 1874)
Patrick Bagnell (Dublin 1876)
Elizabeth (Nottingham 1879)
Rose (Rosina, Rosanna) Bagnell (Derby 1887)

If anyone can find anything on James and Mary it would be much appreciate.

Thanks
Richard

Ireland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911

Not sure what you are looking for here is one child with the mothers maiden name


Name:Sophia Bagenal

Gender:Female

Birth Date:19 Jan 1874

Birth Place:Dublin, Dublin, Ireland

Father:James Bagenal

Mother: Mary Donohoe

FHL Film Number:255901
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James Bagnell

Date of Registration:1873

Registration district:Dublin South, Ireland

Volume:2

Page Number:768
FHL Film Number:101252

Records on Page:

Robert Augustus Gibbons
Eliza Reilly
Helen Leslie
Helen Tanney
Fanny Somerville
Patrick Kelly
Helen Tunney
James Bagnell
Mary O'Donohoe <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Michael O'Donohoe

BAGNELL, ROSANNA FLORENCE O'DONOGHUE Order
GRO Reference: 1886 D Quarter in DERBY Volume 07B Page 520 Order

Another daughter
BAGNELL, MARGARET JANE O'DONOGHUE
GRO Reference: 1882 D Quarter in DERBY Volume 07B Page 519

Sadly so she doesn't show on any census

Deaths Sep 1890 (>99%)
Bagnell Margaret Jane 7 W Derby 7b 278

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Possible baptism for James in 1847?

Ireland, Catholic Parish Registers, 1655-1915

Name: James Thomas Bagnall<<<<<<<<<<
Baptism Age: 0
Event Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 1847
Baptism Date: 14 Jul 1847
Baptism Place: St Andrew's, Dublin city, Dublin, Ireland
Parish Variants: St. Andrew's, Westland Row, Westland Row
Diocese: Dublin
Father: Patk Bagnall<<<<<<<<<<
Mother: Sophia Bagnall<<<<<<<<<<

Marriage of the parents Patrick & Sophia?

Ireland, Catholic Parish Registers, 1655-1915

Name: Patrick Bagnall<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Gender: Male
Event Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 7 Jan 1844
Marriage Place: St Andrew's, Dublin city, Dublin, Ireland
Parish Variants: St. Andrew's, Westland Row, Westland Row
Diocese: Dublin
Spouse: Sophia Isabella Trotter<<<<<<<<<<<<<<


is it just co-incidence that James and Mary's first child born 1874 is Sophia, or might she be named after his mother?

Note, baptism of James and Mary's daur Sophia Isabella in 1874, is she named for her grandmother, Sophia Isabella nee Trotter?

Ireland, Catholic Parish Registers, 1655-1915

Name: Sophia Isabella Bagnal<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Baptism Age: 0
Event Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 19 Jan 1874
Baptism Date: 26 Jan 1874
Baptism Place: St Andrew's, Dublin city, Dublin, Ireland
Residence Place: 2 Clarendon St
Parish Variants: St. Andrew's, Westland Row, Westland Row
Diocese: Dublin
Father: James<<<<<<<<<<
Mother: Mary Donohoe<<<<<<<<<<

Another child of Patrick and Sophia:

Ireland, Catholic Parish Registers, 1655-1915

Name: Elizabeth Francis Bagnall
Baptism Age: 0
Event Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 1845
Baptism Date: 12 Oct 1845
Baptism Place: St Andrew's, Dublin city, Dublin, Ireland
Parish Variants: St. Andrew's, Westland Row, Westland Row
Diocese: Dublin
Father: Patrick Bagnall
Mother: Sophia Bagnall

Her marriage?

Ireland, Catholic Parish Registers, 1655-1915

Name: Elizabeth Frances Bagnall
Gender: Female
Event Type: Marriage
Residence Place: 8 Marks St
Marriage Date: 19 Feb 1871
Marriage Place: St Andrew's, Dublin city, Dublin, Ireland
Parish Variants: St. Andrew's, Westland Row, Westland Row
Diocese: Dublin
Spouse: William Lammey

EDIT, on the register image her parents are Patrick and Sophia

Baptism
County Nottinghamshire
Place Nottingham
Church name St Barnabas
Register type Unknown
Baptism date 21 Jul 1878
Birth date 01 Jul 1878
Person forename Elizabeth Mary
Person sex F
Father forename James
Father surname BAGNELL
Mother forename Mary
Mother surname O'DONOGHUE

https://www.freereg.org.uk/

Chris :)

Marriages Sep 1901 (>99%)
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BAGNELL Elizabeth Mary Derby 7b 1094
Briggs William Derby 7b 1094


1911 (Find My Past)
William Briggs Head Married Male Signal Fitter 34 1877 Derby Derbyshire
Elizabeth Briggs Wife Married Female - 32 1879 Nottingham
William Briggs Son - Male School 9 1902 Derby Derbyshire
Alice Briggs Daughter - Female School 5 1906 Derby Derbyshire
Doris Briggs Daughter - Female - 1 1910 Derby Derbyshire
Rose Bagnell Sister In Law Single Female Paper Bag Maker 23 1888 Derby Derbyshire
206 Uttoxeter Old Road Derby, Derby, Derbyshire,


1939 Register (Find My Past)

206 Uttoxeter New Road , Derby C.B., Derbyshire,
Elizabeth M Briggs 01 Jul 1878 Female Domestic Duties (Unpaid) Married
William Briggs 26 Mar 1877 Male Railway Signal Fixer Married
Olive M George 13 Jul 1916 Female Rubber Coverer Surgical Band Married

Evidence of James being James Thomas?

Marriage of daur Sophia Isabella?


England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973

Name: Sophia Isabella Bagnell<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Gender: Female
Age: 26
Birth Date: 1874
Marriage Date: 1 Dec 1900
Marriage Place: St. James, Derby, Derbyshire, England
Father: James Thomas Allen Bagnell<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Spouse: David Wallace Alexander Simmons
FHL Film Number: 2082206
Reference ID: p 106 n 212


Death?

Deaths Jun 1929 Bagnell James T A 80 Derby 7b 687


Second marriage of daur, back to plain James:

England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973

Name: Sophia Isabella Simmons<<<<<<<<
[Sophia Isabella Bagnall] <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Gender: Female
Age: 34
Birth Date: 1875
Marriage Date: 31 Jul 1909
Marriage Place: St. James, Derby, Derbyshire, England
Father: James Bagnall<<<<<<<<<<<<
Spouse: Alfred Knight
FHL Film Number: 2082206
Reference ID: p 52 n 104

Sorry for my slow reply I've been done to the record office (and found nothing).

Thank you so much for this. It all hangs together really well.

Just plain James on marriage of daur Elizabeth that Chris posted earlier:

England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: Elizabeth Mary Bagnell<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Gender: Female
Age: 23
Birth Date: 1878
Marriage Date: 17 Aug 1901
Marriage Place: St. Luke'S, Derby, Derbyshire, England
Father: James Bagnell<<<<<<<<<<<<
Spouse: William Briggs
FHL Film Number: 2080977
Reference ID: V3 Pg223 CN445

You probably have this marriage for son Patrick:

Derbyshire, England, Select Church of England Parish Registers, 1538-1910

Name: Patrick Bagnell
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Birth Date: 1876
Marriage Date: 30 Nov 1901
Marriage Place: St Barnabas' Church, Derby, Derbyshire, England
Marriage Age: 25
Father: James Bagnell<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Spouse: Elizabeth Thomas
FHL Film Number: 2082037


and death?

Name: Patrick Bagnell
Death Age: 81
Birth Date: abt 1877
Registration Date: Jun 1958
Registration district: Derby
Inferred County: Derbyshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 246

They had at least one child, Winifred, who is listed on Patrick's military record:

Name: Winifred Bagnell
Birth Date: 22 Jul 1903
Birth Place: Derby
Document Year: 1915
Relationship to Soldier: Child
Form Title: Descriptive Report Enlistment
Other Records:
Family Members:
Name Relation to Soldier
Patrick Bagnell Self (Head)
Elizabeth Thomas Spouse
Winifred Bagnell Child

Link to actual birth reg for Sophia in 1874 (5th one down):

https://tinyurl.com/yb7mwdoq

I have found an actual image of the marriage register for James Bagnell and Mary O'Donohue, 1st March 1873.. James' father Patrick is a carpenter, Mary's father John O'Donohue is what looks like a house smith:

https://tinyurl.com/y7mw9r6w

More than one baptism of a Mary Donohue with father named John in Dublin.:

All Ireland, Catholic Parish Registers, 1655-1915

Name: Mary Anna Donohoe
Baptism Age: 0
Event Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 1849
Baptism Date: 20 Aug 1849
Baptism Place: Haddington Road, Dublin, Ireland
Parish Variants: Haddington Road, Dublin, Irishtown, St. Mary's
Diocese: Dublin
Father: John Geo Donohoe
Mother: Eliza Donohoe

Name: Mary Frances Donohoe
Baptism Age: 0
Event Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 1849
Baptism Date: 26 Aug 1849
Baptism Place: St James', Dublin city, Dublin, Ireland
Parish Variants: James' St., St. James, James's Street
Diocese: Dublin
Father: John Donohoe
Mother: Anne Wallice

Name: Mary Donohoe
Baptism Age: 0
Event Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 1849
Baptism Date: 16 Mar 1849
Baptism Place: St Paul's, Dublin city, Dublin, Ireland
Parish Variants: Arran Quay, Old Glasnevin, St. Paul's, Arran Quay
Diocese: Dublin
Father: John Donohoe
Mother: Ellen Hagerty

Thank you all so much
Richard