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Thomas Joseph Strefford

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Anthony

Anthony Report 30 Dec 2017 20:21

Trying to trace missing link in my family tree. Looking for Thomas Joseph b 1875 in Atcham Shrops . Moved with parents to Scotland married Adaline Elizabeth Bill in 1897 in Motherwell. The rest of the family returned south in 1901 leaving Thomas behind to bring up his family in Scotland. He died in 1955 in Midlothian. I am searching for the details between these to dates 1897 and 1955.
Thanks for any help provided.

Andrew

Andrew Report 30 Dec 2017 20:27

1901 census

in the 1901 Scotland Census
1901 Scotland Census No Image
Text-only collection

Report issue

Name: Thomas Strefford
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Relationship: Son-in-law
Gender: Male
Where born: England
Registration Number: 639
Registration district: Dalziel
Civil Parish: Dalziel
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 65 Milton St
Occupation: Ironworks Labourer
ED: 11
Household schedule number: 117
LINE: 18
Roll: CSSCT1901_259
Household Members:
Name Age
James Bill 60
Adline Bill 52
James Bill 29
David Bill 22
Joseph Bill 25
Thomas Strefford 26
James M Bill 2 (Grandson to Head, Father Thomas Strefford)
Agnes Peacock 17

Andy

alviegal

alviegal Report 30 Dec 2017 20:51

The 1901 above has both Joseph and one of his brother in laws as widowers. Both extremely young to have lost their wives.



Joseph Bill Son Widower Male 25 1876 Ironworks Labourer Motherwell, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Transcription
Thomas Strefford Son-In-Law Widower Male 26 1875 Ironworks Labourer England


His wife's death notice.


Strafford. —At Milton Street, on 18th inst.. Adeline Elizabeth Bill, aged 27 years, beloved wife of Thomas Strafford, and only daughter James and Adeline Bill. —Friends please accept of this intimation. IN MEMORIAM.
20 July 1900 - Motherwell Times - Motherwell, Lanarkshire, Scotland


from Scotlandspeople.


Valuation Rolls


STREFFORD
THOMAS

Tenant Occupier

HOUSE NO 27 ST JOHNS SQUARE MILTON STREET

DALZIEL

1915

VR010700305-



and notice for Joseph's wife.


Bill.—ln loving memory of Annie Stewart Marshall, beloved wife of Joseph Bill, who died at 65 Milton Street, Motherwell, on the 21st of November, 1899 ; aged 23 years. A loving wife, a tender mother, 'Tis hard to find out such another ;
23 November 1900 - Motherwell Times - Motherwell, Lanarkshire, Scotland

Andrew

Andrew Report 30 Dec 2017 21:07

Marriage for son James??

BILL
JAMES MARSHALL
STEWART
ROBINA
1922
644/10 1500
Blythswood

BILL
JAMES MARSHALL
BALFOUR
ROBINA STEWART
1922
644/10 1500


Andy

Blythswood

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Dec 2017 21:20

1911 - (for full details, a few credits on Scotlands People will let you see the image of the original census document)


STREFFORD
THOMAS J
1911
M
36
639/ 11/ 33
Dalziel
Lanark

Also with him were:
Mary Strefford, 34
Hannah P, 1


I don't see his marriage to Mary, nor the birth of Hannah, in Scotland.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Dec 2017 21:25



Thomas Strefford
in the Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958
Name: Thomas Strefford
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar, 1907
Registration district: Ballymena, Ireland
Volume: 1
Page Number: 103
FHL Film Number: 101261
Records on Page:
Name
Thomas Strefford
Mary Neilly




Hannah Preece Strefford
in the Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958
Name: Hannah Preece Strefford
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1910
Registration district: Ballymena
Birth Country: Ireland
Volume: 1
Page: 90
FHL Film Number: 101073

alviegal

alviegal Report 30 Dec 2017 21:26

That looks good AG. The Neilly family are mentioned in newspaper clippings.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Dec 2017 21:30

SR District/Reg Area - Ballymena
Birth of HANNAH STREFFORD on 01 May 1910
Name HANNAH STREFFORD
Date of Birth 01 May 1910
Group Registration ID 787664
SR District/Reg Area Ballymena
Sex Female
Mother's Birth Surname NEILLY

Born at Carnlea, Galgorm, Ballymena.
Father: Thomas Strefford, labourer.
Mother: Mary Strefford, formerly Neilly.
Informant: Ellen McClintock, of Carnlea.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Dec 2017 21:33

Hannah's marriage:


STREFFORD
HANNAH P
GLEN
DONALD
1934
639/ 271
Dalziel

And her death:

GLEN
HANNAH PREECE
85
mms NEILLY
1995
738/ 543
Edinburgh

alviegal

alviegal Report 30 Dec 2017 21:37

This is a fly in the ointment though. Mary Neilly's death notice stating her husband is deceased. Thomas Joseph didn't die until 1955.

STBEFFOBD.—At 23 Milton Street, Motherwell, on August 11. 1946, Mary Neilly, beloved wife of the late Thomas Streftord
23 August 1946 - Motherwell Times - Motherwell, Lanarkshire, Scotland

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Dec 2017 21:37

Hannah had at least one child:


GLEN
ANNIE NEILLY
F
1936


EDIT:

Edited birth record because she may still be alive.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Dec 2017 21:40

A few credits will let you see Mary's death cert on SP, to check if the newspaper made a mistake or not.


STREFFORD
MARY
73
1946
639/ 385
Dalziel


EDIT:

I've just had a look at it.
Thomas was still alive, and was the informant.


Mary Strefford, married to Thomas Joseph Strefford, ironworker.
Died at 2.10 am, 11th August 1946, at 23 Milton Street, Motherwell.
Father: James Neilly, farmer, deceased.
Mother: Mary Neilly, ms McClintock, deceased.
Cause of death: cerebral haemorrhage, 3 days.
Informant: Thomas Joseph Strefford, widower, present.

alviegal

alviegal Report 30 Dec 2017 21:50

This is for Mary's sister.

NEILLY.—In loving memory of my dear sister, Annie Neilly, who died on the 5th March, 1926.'Often I sit and think of you, when I am all alone.'

Inserted by Mr and Mrs Strefford and family, 27 St John's Square, Motherwell.

04 March 1927 - Motherwell Times - Motherwell, Lanarkshire, Scotland


27 St John's Square, Motherwell is the address I posted above for the 1925 Valuation Roll so it does appear to be the correct person.

alviegal

alviegal Report 30 Dec 2017 21:57

For a brother, Harry.


dear brother, Harry Neilly, died 10th November, 19k), 7 Queen Street, Motherwell. God’s greatest gift—Remembrance. —lnserted by James and Margaret. NEILLY. —In loving memory of Harry Neilly, died 10th November, 1940, 7 Queen Street, Motherwell. We miss
14 November 1941 - Motherwell Times - Motherwell, Lanarkshire, Scotland

Also from Uncle Tom and Aunty Mary and family, 23 St John's Square, Motherwell.

And one from Cousin Hannah and Donald Glen, Blantyre.

alviegal

alviegal Report 30 Dec 2017 22:04

Annie Neilly Glen married in Cockpen in 1957. This is where Thomas Joseph died in 1955.

STREFFORD
THOMAS JOSEPH
81
1955
676/ 18
Cockpen

Anthony

Anthony Report 31 Dec 2017 10:06

to all the people who so kindly helped with the information of Thomas Joseph Strefford and his family - Thank You

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 31 Dec 2017 14:06

Annie remarried in 1974 in Edinburgh

Was still alive in 2016, at least if she continued living in Scotland.

Her second husband died Edinburgh 1981.