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Phillips Family Wicklow Town Ireland

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Francis

Francis Report 9 Jan 2018 22:25

I am trying to trace my long distance family

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 9 Jan 2018 22:42

Welcome to the boards, Francis.

Can you give us more detail to go on, please?

Some dates? Names?

A quick search for the surname Phillips in County Wicklow in the 1911 census, for example, brings up at least ten different households.

If you really do mean "Wicklow Town", there are three different households in 1911, posted below. Which one is yours?:


William Phillips
in the Web: Ireland, Census, 1911
Name: William Phillips
Gender: Male
Age: 78
Birth Year: abt 1833
Relation to Head: Head
Residence Date: 2 Apr 1911
Townland/Street: Castle Street
District: Wicklow Urban
County: Wicklow
Household Members:
Name Age
William Phillips 78 - widower


George Phillips
in the Web: Ireland, Census, 1911
Name: George Phillips
Gender: Male
Age: 53
Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation to Head: Brother
Residence Date: 2 Apr 1911
Townland/Street: Main Street (part of)
District: Wicklow Urban
County: Wicklow
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Phillips 36
George Phillips 53
Esther Tracy 23
Rose Helena Tracy 19



John Phillips
in the Web: Ireland, Census, 1911
Name: John Phillips
Gender: Male
Age: 40
Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation to Head: Head
Residence Date: 2 Apr 1911
Townland/Street: Fitzwilliam Road
District: Wicklow Urban
County: Wicklow
Household Members:
Name Age
John Phillips 40
Mary Jane Phillips 34
May Phillips 9
Annie Phillips 6
Josie Phillips 4
William Phillips 2

Francis

Francis Report 10 Jan 2018 13:44

My great great grandfather was John Phillips and had was victualler and a wool merchant. He also had schooners moored in the harbour. He had several sons James, Joseph, Bernard, Henry & Francis and a daughter Mary Jane who married McPhail the Town Clerk

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 10 Jan 2018 14:01

Can you give us some idea of date, please?


EDIT:

OK, looks like this family in 1901 - this John is a victualler. The sons are also all victuallers, and unmarried:

John Phillips
in the Web: Ireland, Census, 1901
Name: John Phillips
Gender: Male
Age: 72
Birth Year: abt 1829
Relation to Head: Head
Residence Date: 31 Mar 1901
Townland/Street: Abbey Street
District: Wicklow Town
County: Wicklow
Household Members:
Name Age
John Phillips 72
Joseph Phillips 39
Francis Phillips 32
James Phillips 24

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 10 Jan 2018 14:11

???

Sons' baptisms


Joseph Patrick Philips
in the Ireland, Catholic Parish Registers, 1655-1915
Name: Joseph Patrick Philips
Baptism Age: 0
Event Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 1862
Baptism Date: 23 Mar 1862
Baptism Place: Wicklow, Wicklow, Ireland
Diocese: Dublin
Father: John Philips
Mother: Bridgt Brophy


Francis Philips
in the Ireland, Catholic Parish Registers, 1655-1915
Name: Francis Philips
Baptism Age: 0
Event Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 1868
Baptism Date: 11 Dec 1868
Baptism Place: Wicklow, Wicklow, Ireland
Diocese: Dublin
Father: John Philips
Mother: Bridget Brophy


James Philips
in the Ireland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911
Name: James Philips
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 6 May 1875
Birth Place: Wicklow, Ireland
Father: John Philips
Mother: Bridget Brophy
FHL Film Number: 255935

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 10 Jan 2018 14:14

John & Bridget's marriage:

John Philips
in the Ireland, Catholic Parish Registers, 1655-1915
Name: John Philips
Gender: Male
Event Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 20 Oct 1856
Marriage Place: Wicklow, Wicklow, Ireland
Diocese: Dublin
Spouse: Bridgt Brophy

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 10 Jan 2018 14:17

Just a possibility for John's baptism:


John Philips
in the Ireland, Catholic Parish Registers, 1655-1915
Name: John Philips
Baptism Age: 0
Event Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 1830
Baptism Date: 17 May 1830
Baptism Place: Wicklow, Wicklow, Ireland
Diocese: Dublin
Father: ?M Philips [Wm ?? ]
Mother: Margret Dixesson

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 10 Jan 2018 17:43

Francis....

There is a Bernard Phillips listed on the 1901 census for East Wicklow..he is down as Capt..of the Schooner "Progress" docked in East Wicklow Harbor on the night of the Census.
The above could be "your Bernard".

Francis William MacPhail (note spelling consistent throughout). was the son of Henry MacPhail Auctioneer of Main St.Wicklow he died 2 Jan 1884.

Francis Wm. married "Margaret" Jane Phillips 1879 (again consistent throughout for childrens Births and Francis' Probate 1918).
John Phillips on MC was listed as Butcher. Margaret was 18.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 10 Jan 2018 17:47

1901

Residents of a house 12 in The Mall (Wicklow Town, Wicklow)
MacPhail Francis Wm 41 Male Head of Family Auctioneer Town Clerk Roman Catholic
MacPhail Margaret Jane 37 Female Wife Roman Catholic
MacPhail Henry James 17 Male Son Roman Catholic
MacPhail Linda 12 Female Daughter Roman Catholic
MacPhail William John 10 Male Son Roman Catholic
MacPhail James John 6 Male Son Roman Catholic
MacPhail Reginald Raymond 4 Male Son Roman Catholic


1911

Residents of a house 4 in Bay View Road (Wicklow Urban, Wicklow)

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Forename

Age

Sex

Relation to head

Religion




















MacPhail Franics William 54 Male Head of Family Town Clerk and Harbor Sec.Father Roman Catholic
MacPhail Margaret Jane 51 Female Wife Roman Catholic 32.10.6
MacPhail Henry James 29 Male Son Roman Catholic Asst.Town Clerk
MacPhail Bridget Mary 22 Female Daughter Roman Catholic
MacPhail William John 20 Male Son Roman Catholic Civil Engineer
MacPhail James John 16 Male Son Roman Catholic
MacPhail Reginald Raymond 15 Male Son Roman Catholic
MacPhail Gertrnde Mary 9 Female Daughter Roman Catholic
Doran John 19 Male General Labourer Roman Catholic














Francis

Francis Report 10 Jan 2018 18:58

Hi, I have a copy of John Phillips will who was a Victualler and father to the sons and one daughter (there was another daughter who passed away quite young I believe). The will was written that Margaret Jane would end up with most of JP's property on the passing of the brothers (strange will)

Francis married and he had two children John Phillips known as "Jack" (my grandfather and his sibling Bridget. Francis & his wife passed away when Jack & Bridie were very little and they were left orphans, partly brought up by family. They were also cheated out of a will on their mother side who was from near Newcastle Wicklow.

I believe that McPail was caught in some sort of embezzlement and left penniless.

I have also been informed we had some sort of relationship with the Fitzwilliam/Wentworth family

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 10 Jan 2018 19:43

Francis ...Just time to add this before the football starts...

From Wicklow Parish Church Graveyard Headstone's (found it strange considering the family were RC however have checked the death details and all are correct for John Phillip's family.

No.30
Erected by | JOHN PHILLIPS | in Memory of | his beloved son | WILLIAM | who
departed this life | 12th March 1883 | aged 18 years | also his beloved
daughter
| BRIDE MARY | who died 5th May 1883 | aged 13 years | also his beloved wife |
BRIDGET | who departed this life | 2nd March 1895, aged 56 years | also | JOHN,
JAMES and JOSEPH | sons of the above | and also the above named | JOHN PHILLIPS
| who died 5th September 1903 | aged 72 years | R.I.P.

I cannot find John's death for 1903 listed but details of the others are as follows..

William aged 17 died of Consumption in March 1883 and poor Bride 13 died in the May with Hip problems.. Bridget died of Puemonia.





Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 10 Jan 2018 19:48

This is the probate Francis Wm. Bayview House

Name Francis William Mac Phail
Event Type Probate
Event Date 26 Jun 1918
Event Place Wicklow
Beneficiary's Name Margaret Jane Mac Phail

Francis

Francis Report 10 Jan 2018 21:11

Hi I investigated the confusion of our RC family being buried in a C of I cemetery. My initial assumptions was that with our name being more British than Irish that were of English stock and possibly originally C of E. However I could not find any Anglo history or connection other than it was mentioned by distant relations that we may have been brought over by Wentworth/Fitzwilliam from Yorkshire.

Historically I believe that the C of I cemetery was mixed as it was there before the C of I church and as so was not denomination based.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 12 Jan 2018 19:32

http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/wicklow/photos/tombstones/wicklow-town/index.html

3rd row down 4th grave inform left....(No.30)