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John Dixon HORE

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Caroline

Caroline Report 22 Jan 2018 09:56

I am looking for the birth/baptism record for John Dixon Hore born (possibly in Liverpool, Lancashire) in 1802/1803, and/or the name of his parents. Many censuses and the baptismal records of his own children show that he was a bookkeeper/accountant in Liverpool and subsequently in Birkenhead and his death is registered in 1886 in West Derby, Cheshire. Any help will be much appreciated.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 Jan 2018 10:09

As his marriage to Mary Boyter was pre-1837, no father's name on record. He states in 1851 that he was born in Liverpool

Caroline

Caroline Report 22 Jan 2018 10:15

Yes thank you for that - I have the marriage record from 1824 but no birth or baptism record - I have already searched the Lancashire OPC. I have found an Elizabeth Dixon Hore buried on the very same day and at the same church where one of John Dixon Hore's children was baptised - St Peter's Liverpool. She was 48, living in the workhouse and died of 'Decline'. I am wondering if this is a coincidence but trying to find out if Elizabeth Dixon Hore born 1780 may have been John Dixon Hore's mother. But as John Dixon Hore died leaving quite a large estate, I am wondering why his widowed mother would have died in a workhouse?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Jan 2018 10:29

For our reference:

Elizabeth Dixon Hore
in the Liverpool, England, Church of England Burials, 1813-1970
Name: Elizabeth Dixon Hore
Age: 48
Birth Year: abt 1780
Burial Date: 9 Jan 1828
Burial Place: Liverpool, St Peter, Lancashire, England


Richard Dixon Hore
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Richard Dixon Hore
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 9 Jan 1828
Baptism Place: St. Peter's, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Father: John Dixon Hore
Mother: Mary
FHL Film Number: 93877

Caroline

Caroline Report 22 Jan 2018 10:34

Yes - thank you. Those are the records referred to in my response above which have led me to wonder if Elizabeth Dixon Hore was 1) a relative or 2) the mother of John Dixon Hore.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Jan 2018 10:56

Yes, I know, Caroline. I posted the records for helpers' reference. for exact date and place.

Not that it seems to help find any other record of her so far!

Caroline

Caroline Report 22 Jan 2018 11:15

I once found a newspaper obituary announcing her death but can't seem to lay my hands on it now. As her death was announced in a paper I am assuming she wasn't a pauper and was in the workhouse infirmary but I don't know this to be the case.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 22 Jan 2018 11:17

Elizabeth may have been a patient rather than an inmate of the workhouse when she died.

Catherine

Catherine Report 22 Jan 2018 11:20

If you look at the original of the burial record for Elizabeth Dixon Hore, it states that she died in the workhouse, reason:- Decline and that she was a widow.
May help find further information on her.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 22 Jan 2018 11:24

As below perhaps...

Chris :)

11 January 1828 - Liverpool Mercury - Liverpool, Merseyside, England

Died
On Sunday last, aged 48, after a long and tedious illness, Elizabeth, relict of the late Richard D. Hore of Dublin.

Caroline

Caroline Report 22 Jan 2018 11:39

Oh that is fantastic Chris Ho. Thank you. All I have to do now is find out if said Elizabeth and Richard D. are the parents of John Dixon Hore and this will take me to Dublin!!

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 22 Jan 2018 13:32

Probably below ...

Chris :)

Liverpool, England, Catholic Baptisms, 1741-1906 (Ancestry)

John Dixon (Born 6 Jul 1802) Baptism 12 Jul 1802 St Peter's Priory
(son of Richard & Elizabeth Hare Dixon (Hore on image. sponsors, John Baynes & Alice McDermott)

Caroline

Caroline Report 22 Jan 2018 13:40

Oh goodness - that's a real possibility then but I wonder how Hare/Hore Dixon gets replaced in all subsequent generations by Hore (Dixon seems only to be given as a middle name to the eldest sons). I will follow this up - thank you Chris!!

John D Hore's subsequent marriage was in the C of E Parish of St Peter's - I wonder if he would have required an adult baptism/confirmation if he was considered a convert from Catholicism at that time... More leads to follow as I suspect I can refine my searches to Catholic records in Ireland for the previous generation!