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Hi I’m looking for info on Joseph Myatt born Birmingham 1849 - his father I think was a slipper maker originally from Trentham - staffotdshjre

I think Joseph married a lady called Madelia Kidd.(?!)

Would be great if the marriage cert was available to view Joseph fathers name
- I’m no 100% sure but I think it may be Leveson Myatt.

For ref there are several poss births?

: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
MYATT, JOSEPH FINNEY Order
GRO Reference: 1847 J Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 17 Page 166 Order
MYATT, JOSEPH COPE Order
GRO Reference: 1848 J Quarter in STAFFORD Volume 17 Page 148 Order
MYATT, JOSEPH FINNEY Order
GRO Reference: 1848 D Quarter in BIRMINGHAM Volume 16 Page 384 Order
MYATT, JOSEPH DEVENPORT Order
GRO Reference: 1849 S Quarter in STONE Volume 17 Page 196 Order
MYATT, JOSEPH MORGAN Order
GRO Reference: 1850 S Quarter in NEWCASTLE UNDER LYME Volume 17 Page 101

England & Wales marriages 1837-2005 Transcription

First name(s) JOSEPH
Last name MYATT
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1880
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ JOSEPH MYATT married one of these people
Madelia Kidd, Eliza Pulley
District West Bromwich
District number -
County Staffordshire
Country England
Volume 6B
Volume as transcribed 6B
Page number 867

So would have to order that to view his fathers name to confirm if it’s possibly leveson

Thanks

Oh I just thought I could look for a marriage of a leveson Myatt to tie in with one of those possible mothers for Joseph myatt

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
134, William Street, Saint Thomas Birmingham, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Leveson Myatt Head Married Male 46 1805 Shoe Maker Trentham, Staffordshire, England
Martha Myatt Wife Married Female 37 1814 - Barlestone, Warwickshire, England
William Myatt Son - Male 14 1837 Pearl Button Filear Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Henry Myatt Son - Male 13 1838 Pearl Button Filear Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Mary Myatt Daughter - Female 7 1844 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Elizabeth Myatt Daughter - Female 5 1846 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Transcription
Joseph Myatt Son - Male 2 1849 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

MYATT, MARY mmn FINNEY Order
GRO Reference: 1843 J Quarter in BIRMINGHAM Volume 16 Page 362

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
47, Barr Street West, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Joseph Myatt Head Married Male 32 1849 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Burnisher
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Madilia Myatt Wife Married Female 22 1859 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England -
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Earnest Myatt Son Single Male 0 1881 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England -

Mistranscribed for Leveson 1841, his marriage would be before 1836

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
William Street, St Thomas, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Leveson Myott Male 35 1806 Warwickshire, England Transcription
Martha Myott Female 25 1816 Warwickshire, England Transcription
William Myott Male 5 1836 Warwickshire, England Transcription
Henry Myott Male 3 1838 Warwickshire, England Transcription
Catherine Myott Female 0 1841 Warwickshire, England
John Billington Male 20 1821 Warwickshire, England Transcription

Right so I ve just found his actual birth is 1848 but this census indicated 1849

and Wales Census, 1851
Name: Joseph Myatt
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1851
Event Place: Saint Thomas Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Registration District: Birmingham
Residence Note: William Street
Gender: Male
Age: 2
Relationship to Head of Household: Son
Birth Year (Estimated): 1849
Birthplace: Birmingham, Warwickshire
Page Number: 56
Registration Number: HO107
Piece/Folio: 2052 / 251
Affiliate Record Type: Household
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Leveson Myatt Head Male 46 Trentham, Staffordshire
Martha Myatt Wife Female 37 Barlestone, Warwickshire
William Myatt Son Male 14 Birmingham, Warwickshire
Henry Myatt Son Male 13 Birmingham, Warwickshire
Mary Myatt Daughter Female 7 Birmingham, Warwickshire
Elizabeth Myatt Daughter Female 5 Birmingham, Warwickshire
Joseph Myatt Son Male 2

England Marriages 1538-1973
Last name Myatt
Name note -
Marriage year 1836
Marriage date 14 Mar 1836
Marriage place Edgbaston
Spouse's first name(s) Martha
Spouse's last name Finney
County Warwickshire
Country England
Record set England Marriages 1538-1973
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from England, Great Britain

When the census people work out ages they take the age someone says they are away from the census year.
ie. census 1851 - age 2 = born 1849

However, most census are taken early April and a 2 year old could have been born anytime post census date, later in April 1848 - early April 1849. So there's an almost 75% chance for them to have been born the earlier of the 2 possible years.

Likewise a 50 year old could have been born 1800/1801 at 1851 census time.

Add to that the fact that not everyone knew precisely when they were born ........... and those who told little white lies about it !!

Don't forget too, that there is a 6 week period of grace from birth to when the birth has to be registered, so you can get someone born in mid November - ish 1848, not registered until the Jan/Feb/Mar Quarter in 1849

This is brill will read through this properly after tea

Medelia Kidd
England Births and Christenings
Name Medelia Kidd
Gender Female
Christening Date 12 Jan 1862
Christening Date (Original) 12 JAN 1862
Christening Place SAINT THOMAS,BIRMINGHAM,WARWICK,ENGLAND
Birth Date 08 Aug 1858
Father's Name Henry Kidd
Mother's Name Eliza

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Medelia Kidd
England, Warwickshire, Parish Registers
Name Medelia Kidd
Event Type Baptism
Event Date 12 Jan 1862
Event Place Birmingham, Warwickshire, England, United Kingdom
Birth Date 08 Aug 1858
Father's Name Henry Kidd
Father's Residence Place Stoke Street
Mother's Name Eliza Kidd

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
6, Stoke Street, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Eliza Kidd Head Widow Female 34 1827 ... Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Also on original but not transcribed -
Emily Kidd, daughter age 12
Edwin Kidd, son aged 8 and
John Kidd, son aged 2

all born Birmingham.

Where is Madelia?

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
KIDD, MADELIA DRING Order
GRO Reference: 1858 S Quarter in BIRMINGHAM Volume 06D Page 52 Order

KIDD, EDWIN DRING Order
GRO Reference: 1852 D Quarter in BIRMINGHAM Volume 06D Page 47

Marriage for Martha Finney ............ definitely shows leveson as name of her husband


England Marriages 1538-1973

First name(s) Martha
Last name Finney
Name note -
Marriage year 1836
Marriage date 14 Mar 1836
Marriage place Edgbaston
Spouse's first name(s) Leveson
Spouse's last name Myatt
County Warwickshire
Country England
Record set England Marriages 1538-1973
Category Life Events (BDMs)
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from England, United Kingdom

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Court, House 1 Exeter Row, Saint Thomas, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Henry Kidd Head Married Male 28 1823 Stamper (Silver) Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Eliza Kidd Wife Married Female 23 1828 Shoe Binders London, Middlesex, England
Emily Kidd Daughter - Female 2 1849 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Celia Kidd Daughter - Female 0 1851 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Rather than being transcribed as a family, Henry and Eliza are transcribed on FMP together, (bottom of one page on original) and the 2 children are transcribed together as they are the top of the next page !! Reported to FMP

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
KIDD, CELIA DRING Order
GRO Reference: 1851 J Quarter in BIRMINGHAM Volume 16 Page 435 Order

Name: Age at Death (in years): Order:
KIDD, CELIA 0 Order
GRO Reference: 1852 M Quarter in BIRMINGHAM Volume 06D Page 18

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Staffordshire, England, Extracted Church of England Parish Records, 1538-1839

Name: Levison Myatt
Gender: Male
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 24 Jun 1804
Baptism Date: 19 Jul 1807
Baptism Place: Trentham, Staffordshire, England
Father: Joseph Myatt
Mother: Jane Myatt


Birmingham, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1937

Name: Jameson Myatt
[Leveson Myatt]
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 14 Mar 1836
Marriage Place: Edgbaston, St Bartholomew, Warwickshire, England
Parish as it Appears: Edgbaston, St Bartholomew
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Spouse: Martha Fanny

The image is very faint, but it is Finney

Name: Age at Death (in years): Order:
KIDD, HENRY 37 Order
GRO Reference: 1860 M Quarter in BIRMINGHAM Volume 06D Page 27

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England & Wales marriages 1837-2005 Transcription

First name(s) ELIZA
Last name KIDD
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1862
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ ELIZA KIDD married one of these people
Major Flavell, Joseph Vincent Mears
District Birmingham
District number -
County Warwickshire
Country England
Volume 6D
Volume as transcribed 6D
Page number 193

I don’t suppose there is a baptism record for Joseph 1848/9

I thought befor this Leveson MYATT was the 1804 som of Joseph & Jane ?!

Emma .............

I've been looking and looking.

The only baptism I can find is for Catherine, I can find no baptisms for other children!