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Hi All, to be married notice May 4th 1945 Eastern Province Herald South Africa Phyllis May Appleby & Peter Graham Stewart Monday May 7th @ 3.45

How can I find out if this took place, I cannot find any records on line
Thanks Ian

Phyllis May Appleby
England, Essex Parish Registers
Name Peter Graham Stewart
Event Type Marriage
Event Date 1945
Event Place Essex, England, United Kingdom
Residence Place Essex, England, United Kingdom
Marital Status Single
Spouse's Name Phyllis May Appleby
Spouse's Residence Place Walmar South Africa
Spouse's Marital Status Single

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From FMP

British armed forces and overseas banns and marriages
First name(s) Phyllis M
Last name Appleby
Sex Female
Marriage year 1945
MarriageFinder™ Phyllis M Appleby married
Peter G Stewart
Marriage place Port Elizabeth
Place type Place
Country South Africa
Type Armed Forces
Source Gro Index Army Marriages (1881 To 1955)
Records year range 1945
Archive reference ARM2
Page 3391
Line number 18
Archive General Register Office
Record set British Armed Forces And Overseas Banns And Marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce
Collections from Great Britain, UK None

Thanks nyx, could you get a copy for me please, no good on line Ian

Unfortunately there's no image available, but you should be able to order the cert from the GRO

British armed forces and overseas banns and marriages
First name(s) Peter G
Last name Stewart
Sex Male
Marriage year 1945
MarriageFinder™ Peter G Stewart married
Phyllis M Appleby
Marriage place Port Elizabeth
Place type Place
Country South Africa
Type Armed Forces
Source Gro Index Army Marriages (1881 To 1955)
Records year range 1945
Archive reference ARM2
Page 3391
Line number 42
Archive General Register Office
Record set British Armed Forces And Overseas Banns And Marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce
Collections from Great Britain, UK None


"Q1. What records are held for overseas births, marriages, civil partnerships and deaths?
Births, marriages and deaths registered by the British Forces and the British Consul or High Commission in the country where they took place, from 1849. "

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/menu.asp

I've not done so myself so do check first, there are contact details on site

Thank you so much Ian

Ian, assuming the individuals are now deceased (she was born 1915?) ... you may be interested in this record from South African national archives

DEPOT KAB
SOURCE GSC
TYPE LEER
VOLUME_NO 2/1/1/477
SYSTEM 01
REFERENCE 439
PART 1
DESCRIPTION ILLIQUID CASE.
PHYLLIS MAY STEWART (BORN APPLEBY) VERSUS PETER GRAHAM STEWART. RESTITUTION OF CONJUGAL RIGHTS.
STARTING 19480000
ENDING 19480000

(This was essentially an action for desertion, in 1948.)

Hi Jooniecloonie, Many thanks, Phyllis was b 1920 & yes both are now dead.
It also opens a can of very nasty worms, he m 2nd 1956 London

Hi Ian, that action in SA probably resulted in a divorce.*

The later marriage certificate in England would show whether the person reported as having a previous marriage dissolved by divorce.



* for random examples of "illiquid cases" that were actually divorce actions, see here:
http://www.wellbelove.org/south-africa-divorce.html

and for an explanation, see here:
http://www.ancestors.co.za/frequently-asked-questions/

"What does Illiquid Case mean?
An illiquid case is a court action where there is no monetary claim or the amount of the monetary claim is not pre-determined or easily calculated. A divorce is often an illiquid case. Often in a divorce settlement, one party will receive mostly illiquid assets, including the home, while the other party receives liquid assets such as retirement plans, etc…"

So rather than what I said earlier, the record I posted was probably a divorce action itself, initiated by Phyllis.

JoonieCloonie, Once again very many thanks for the help. Ian