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Thanks Rose, I'm going through files ATM.

There is a marriage to Ethel Edmonson late 1911.

I thought I had found Edgar 1911 as a lodger at 20 Cedardale Rd, Fazakerly occ ship's quartermaster aged 23.

I have just purchased and downloaded the medal card from NA 1919 address when he applied for the medals was 103 Makin Street, Liverpool.

First name(s) MARIA EDITH
Last name CARTWRIGHT
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1886
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ MARIA EDITH CARTWRIGHT married one of these people
Robert Clement Ives, Edwin Broad <<<
District Liverpool
District number -
County Lancashire
Country England
Volume 8B
Volume as transcribed 8B
Page number 188
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce
Collections from Great Britain, England

Maria remarried 1904 to Rigby, she is here with daughter Eunice Broad ( not Bread lol)

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
17 Herbert St Walton Liverpool, Walton on the Hill, Lancashire, England

Maria Edith Rigby Head Widow Female 46 1865 Liverpool Lanc Daily Cleaning
Eunice Bread Daughter Single Female 24 1887 Walton Lpool Lanc Shop Assistant Shop
Charles Roy Millin Bread Adopted Son - Male 12 1899 Seaforth Lanc School
Bessie Rigby Daughter - Female 3 1908 Walton Lpool Lanc -

Sue, don't know if this helps or hinders, but it's likely to be the Edgar in the merchant navy I mentioned earlier, born 1888, age 13 on this record , father "dead", mother Maria Broad, grandmother Harriet Cartwright, on census for 1901 he appears as George?

National School Admission Registers & Log-books 1870-1914 Transcription

First name(s) Edgar
Last name Broad
Birth year -
Birth date -
Event year 1901
School name HMS Indefatigable training ship
Town Liverpool
County Lancashire
Country England
Parent name(s) Maria Broad
Book type Admissions
Archive reference D/IND/3/2/8
Folio / page no. 59
Archive Liverpool Maritime Museum
Record set National School Admission Registers & Log-Books 1870-1914
Category Education & work
Subcategory Schools & education
Collections from Great Britain, England

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
2, Eton Street, Liverpool, Walton on the Hill, West Derby, Lancashire, England


C H Cartwright Head Widow Female 61 1840 Halifax, Yorkshire, England No Occupation
A N Cartwright Son Single Male 24 1877 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Railway Porter
F P Cartwright Son Single Male 21 1880 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Railway Porter
C Cartwright Daughter Single Female 17 1884 Lancashire, England Cook Sorter
M Broad Daughter Widow Female 36 1865 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Cook (Domestic) <<<<< Maria?
Eunice Broad Grand Daughter Single Female 14 1887 Lancashire, England No Occupation
George Broad Grand Son Single Male 12 1889 Lancashire, England No Occupation <<<<<<<
Edward Curtis Visitor Single Male 30 1871 Dublin, Dublin, Ireland Mechanical Engineer Transcription
Edward Widlake Visitor Single Male 19 1882 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Railway Porter

I have received the marriage cert as follows:

02 Feb 1948 Liverpool north.

Edgar George Broad age 36 the divorced husband of Dorothy Thelma Broad (formerly Kennedy spinster) Motor Fitter residence at time of marriage Haselbeech Crescent West Derby Father Edgar George Broad Ships Rigger.

Thanks

Sue

Thanks again for helping.

We know the correct grandparents are:

Edgar G Broad
Bridget Whyte (White)

Their children were born in Liverpool.

Edgar died Q2 1961 aged 48 in Liverpool.

That would seem to confirm the DOB as stated on the 1939 register.

I am gradually breaking into my neighbour's house by banging my head on the wall.

Sue

(ah!, got that now Mary, lol)

Chris :)

This birth registration does not match a December 1912 birthday

BROAD, GEORGE EDMONDSON Order
GRO Reference: 1912 M Quarter in WEST DERBY Volume 08B Page 534

1939
Broad Household (2 People)
9 Bell Street , Liverpool C.B., Lancashire, England

FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER
Edgar G Broad 05 Dec 1912 Male Rubber Cutter & Stripper Dunlop Footwear Boot Ma Married 46 1
Dorothy T Broad 29 Dec 1919 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 46 2

Thanks all......will come back to this later today

Sue

There is IMISON Street Walton Liverpool.Maybe that is what they meant.

1911 97 Imison street Walton Liverpool
4 rooms
Frederick Craine 24
Hannah Craine 22

When you view Imison Street on the map you can also see Makin Street.

Maryb.

(lol, same thought as me Dea, Mission!, looked also, 1911 Census Summary Books (Ancestry)

Google usually brings something up on Street names, and very often references in Newspapers.

Chris :)

I have also been through the entire street directory of old Liverpool and there is nothing which looks anything like Immission St. - There is not even a 'Mission St' which I might have expected!

Dea x

Immission Street Liverpool?, can't see anything on it...(as in Street reference)

Chris :)

Hi supercrutch, I would put money on him being the birth Mary posted

George Broad - M qtr 1912 west Derby V08b P 534

Too good a match with the age, and with a father named Edgar, and your Edgar stating middle initial G -- too much coincidence!

Sticking this here so I see what the certificate says when it comes :-)

I sympathise I have direct line Jones. I am back to patronymic and parked them months ago.

Ivan ap Thomas isn't terribly helpful :-(

We all have those mad moments when we decide to take another look at a particular branch.

I've got DAVIES marrying DAVIES in the South Wales valleys, I can't really buy too many birth certificates to sort out their possible 12 children.

also JONES moving there from Herefordshire ( as if there weren't enough there already )
The ones who stayed in Herefordshire had distinctive names like Mary, Jane, William and John.

meanwhile separate family line I have George JONES a labourer born in Southampton.....before registration of course.

...........One day when I'm feeling brave .................!!

Will do Gwyn...lolol

I looked at the George Edgar on Ancestry but nothing fits (even if he reversed his name).

I have ordered his marriage cert to Bridget, which I know is correct.

Why do I do this? lololol

Edgar 1888 married Ethel Edmondson and I have found 8 births to that marriage one being George M qtr 1912 west Derby V08b P 534 could this be your Edgar ??


There is a Closed tree on Ancestry.co.uk with a George Edgar Broad born Immission Street Liverpool and Ethel born 1914 who also was a daughter of Edgar and Ethel nee Edmondson.

Then another closed tree with George Broad 1912 of 97 Immission Street.

Maryb.

Do please report back if you find you link to Madley BROADs

One of my relatives married into that family.

I have been on this query for days.... I will have to resort to ordering a cert. These are related by marriage and are proving a nightmare..lol

Thanks for trying :-D

Edit: That's him Shirley

Edgar G Broad
Death Age: 48
Birth Date: abt 1913
Registration Date: Jun 1961
Registration district: Liverpool
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 10d
Page: 219