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Mary Pickersgill nee Smith

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Glynis

Glynis Report 24 Apr 2018 16:27

Looking for information about my grandmothers family Smith, and any other information, such as her mothers maiden name, and siblings.
She was born in 1891and died in 1965, I'm not sure where she was born.
She married my grandfather Frank Pickersgill in 1913, in Barnsley South Yorkshire.
They lived in Barnsley all their lives, but I can't find her family as her maiden name is
so common.
Any information would be gratefully received.
Many thanks

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Apr 2018 16:42

If you get a copy of the marriage cert, you will find out if she knew her father's name

Without that, you may struggle

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Apr 2018 16:44

1939

Pickersgill Household (2 People)
23 Carlton Lane , Barnsley C.B., Yorkshire (West Riding), England

Mary Pickersgill 22 Jun 1890 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 135 1
Edna Rhodes (Pickersgill) 11 Feb 1928 Female At School Single 135 2

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Apr 2018 16:52

This birth fits with the DOB on 1939, BUT, only applies IF she was born in Barnsley

SMITH, MARY WARRINGTON Order
GRO Reference: 1890 S Quarter in BARNSLEY UNION Volume 09C Page 182

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Apr 2018 16:57

You're in luck - the marriage cert is on Ancestry

Name: Mary Smith
Marriage Age: 23
Event Type: Marriage
Birth Year: abt 1890
Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1913
Marriage Place: Barnsley, St Mary, Yorkshire, England
Parish: Barnsley, St Mary
Father: Ben Smith _ Deceased - miner
Spouse: Frank Pickergill

Address for both parties 106 Old Mill Lane, Barnsley

Witnesses: Samuel Hague and Clara Hague

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Apr 2018 17:03

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Smithies Old Road, Monk Bretton, Barnsley, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England

Charles Pickersgill Head Married Male 32 1859 Yorkshire, England Collier Transcription
Annie E Pickersgill Wife Married Female 34 1857 Yorkshire, England - Transcription
Joseph Hepplestone Son Single Male 16 1875 Yorkshire, England Coal Pit Boy Transcription
Florence Pickersgill Daughter - Female 10 1881 Yorkshire, England Scholar Transcription
Alvine Pickersgill Son - Male 8 1883 Monk Bretton, Yorkshire, England Scholar Transcription
Ethel Pickersgill Daughter - Female 2 1889 Yorkshire, England - Transcription
Frank Pickersgill Son - Male 0 1891 Yorkshire, England


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
6, Carlton Road Smithies Terrace, Monk Bretton, Barnsley, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England


Charley Pickersgill Head Married Male 43 1858 Yorkshire, England Coal Hewer Transcription
Ann E Pickersgill Wife Married Female 44 1857 Smithies, Yorkshire, England - Transcription
Alvin Pickersgill Son Single Male 18 1883 Smithies, Yorkshire, England Coal Trammer Transcription
Ethel Pickersgill Daughter Single Female 12 1889 Smithies, Yorkshire, England Scholar Transcription
Frank Pickersgill Son Single Male 10 1891 Smithies, Yorkshire, England Scholar Transcription
Frances Pickersgill Daughter Single Female 7 1894 Smithies, Yorkshire, England Scholar Transcription
Charles Pickersgill Son Single Male 2 1899 Smithies, Yorkshire, England - Transcription
Thomas Hy Williams Boarder Single Male 18 1883 Flintshire, Wales Coal Trammer

safc

safc Report 24 Apr 2018 17:05

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1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Station Road, Kimberworth, Rotherham, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Benjamin Smith Head Married Male 49 1842 Derbyshire, England Coal Miner
Transcription
Sarah Smith Wife Married Female 45 1846 Yorkshire, England -
Transcription
William Smith Son Single Male 19 1872 Yorkshire, England Coal Miner
Transcription
Ellen Smith Daughter Single Female 14 1877 Yorkshire, England General Servant Domestic
Transcription
Joseph Smith Son - Male 13 1878 Yorkshire, England -
Transcription
Sarah Smith Daughter - Female 10 1881 Yorkshire, England Scholar
Transcription
Clara Smith Daughter - Female 8 1883 Yorkshire, England Scholar
Transcription
Elizabeth Smith Daughter - Female 6 1885 Yorkshire, England Scholar
Transcription
Arthur Smith Son - Male 2 1889 Yorkshire, England -
Transcription
Mary Smith Daughter - Female 0 1891 Yorkshire, England -

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 24 Apr 2018 17:52


1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
77, Worthing Road, Attercliffe cum Darnall, Sheffield, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England

Ben Smith Head Married Male 39 1842 Staveley, Derbyshire, England Coal Miner
Sarah Smith Wife Married Female 34 1847 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England -
Henry Smith Son Single Male 14 1867 Hoyland, Yorkshire, England Coal Miner
Ruth Smith Daughter Single Female 12 1869 Hoyland, Yorkshire, England -
William Smith Son Single Male 9 1872 Hoyland, Yorkshire, England -
Elizabeth Smith Daughter Single Female 10 1871 Hoyland, Yorkshire, England -
Rebecca Smith Daughter Single Female 7 1874 Hoyland, Yorkshire, England -
Jane Smith Daughter Single Female 5 1876 Hoyland, Yorkshire, England -
Ellen Smith Daughter Single Female 4 1877 Hoyland, Yorkshire, England -
Joseph Smith Son Single Male 2 1879 Hoyland, Yorkshire, England -

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 24 Apr 2018 18:37

???


Ben Smith
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Ben Smith
Age: 58
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Sarah Smith
Birth Place: Staveley, Derbyshire, England
Civil Parish: Conisbrough
Ecclesiastical parish: Denaby
Town: Conisbrough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
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Registration district: Doncaster
Sub-registration district: Barmbrough
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors:
Piece: 4406
Folio: 118
Page Number: 18
Household schedule number: 94
Household Members:
Name Age
Ben Smith 58 - coal miner (hewer)
Sarah Smith 52 - Sheffield

Also on the image, but not transcribed with them on Ancestry:

Mary, 10, and Frederick, 6. Both born Sheffield.

Glynis

Glynis Report 24 Apr 2018 18:48

Thank you so much everyone , this helps me so much. gives me leads to follow, all help much appreciated .

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 24 Apr 2018 18:50

Possible death of Benjamin ??

Deaths Jun 1907 (>99%)
SMITH Benjamin 65 Barnsley 9c 131


EDIT:
No, this can't be him, in light of Mary's post below, showing that Benjamin was still alive in 1911.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 24 Apr 2018 19:07

Sarah Smith
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Sarah Smith
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Benjm Smith
Gender: Female
Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Nether Hoyland
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Barnsley
Sub-registration district: Darfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Household schedule number: 88
Piece: 4650
Folio: 143
Page Number: 29
Household Members:
Name Age
Benjm Smith 29
Sarah Smith 25
Henry Smith 4
Ruth Smith 2
W E Smith 9 Months



To back up the Smith/Warrington birth for Mary, posted earlier by Erika:

SMITH, RUTH mms WARRINGTON
GRO Reference: 1869 J Quarter in BARNSLEY UNION Volume 09C Page 162

SMITH, HENRY mms WARRINGTON
GRO Reference: 1866 S Quarter in BARNSLEY UNION Volume 09C Page 138


Marriages Mar 1866 (>99%)
Smith Ben Barnsley 9c 189
WARRINGTON Sarah Barnsley 9c 189

Mary

Mary Report 24 Apr 2018 19:31

Witness to their marriage??

Clara Smith 1883 dad Ben a collier married Samuel Hague 21 both of 31 Violet Terrace Barnsley married 19/8/1900 witness's Joseph smith and Ellen Hague.

1911 12 Oak Terrace Eastwood Rotherham 3 children born 2 died
Samuel Hague 30 Sheffield
Clara 28 Sheffield
Lenard Hague
Ben Smith widow born 1842
Arthur Smith
Fred Smith

Maryb.

Glynis

Glynis Report 24 Apr 2018 19:44

I can remember visiting an Aunt Clara, didn't know for certain it was my grandmothers sister.
So looks like my great grandmother's maiden name was Warrington, thats a great help.Thank you.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 24 Apr 2018 22:34

So Ben was alive in 1911, but had died by the time Mary married in 1913.

??

Deaths Jun 1912 (>99%)
Smith Ben 69 Rotherham 9c 720

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 24 Apr 2018 23:05

Ben Smith
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Ben Smith
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: 1843
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Elizabeth Smith
Gender: Male
Where born: Staveley, Derbyshire, England
Civil Parish: Staveley
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
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Registration district: Chesterfield
Sub-registration district: Eckington
ED, institution, or vessel: 14d
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 27
Piece: 2536
Folio: 6
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Smith 50 - widow
Ben Smith 18
Elizabeth Smith 16
Thomas Smith 14
Jane Smith 12
William Smith 9
John Richardson 62 - boarder


Ben Smith
in the 1851 England Census
Name: Ben Smith
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Son
Father's name: Henry Smith
Mother's name: Elizth Smith
Gender: Male
Where born: Stavely, Derbyshire, England
Civil Parish: Stanton by Dale
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
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County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
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Registration district: Shardlow
Sub-registration district: Stapleford
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 99
Piece: 2141
Folio: 261
Page Number: 28
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Smith 41 - Ashover, Derbyshire
Elizth Smith 40 - Stavely
Joseph Smith 9
Ben Smith 8
Elzith Smith 6
Thomas Smith 4
Jane Smith 3
James Smith 85


Elizabeth Richardson
in the Derbyshire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932
Name: Elizabeth Richardson
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 18 Nov 1833
Marriage Place: Staveley, Derbyshire, England
Spouse: Henry Smith
Witnesses: George Richardson and Mary Fisher


???
Elizabeth Smith
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Elizabeth Smith
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Registration Year: 1883
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 72
Registration district: Barnsley
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9c
Page: 124

Glynis

Glynis Report 25 Apr 2018 15:32

Thank you, lots of information, you have been a great help.