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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 2 May 2018 17:23

Possible death of Ellen ??

Deaths Dec 1881 (>99%)
Wood Ellen 56 Manchester 8d 199


Re the James and Margaret in 1901, that couple are both pedlars / hawkers.
Doesn't fit with 1881 occupations, never mind James's birthplace.

Mind you, "machine minder" in 1881 doesn't fit with "painter" at marriage the same year!

cane

cane Report 2 May 2018 17:16

Yes this is correct
Mmm i didn't know he was born in Liverpool as i can't find a baptism for him

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 2 May 2018 17:10

Just for our reference:

Ellen Wood
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Ellen Wood
Age: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825
Relationship to Head: Mother in Law
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland
Civil Parish: Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 9 Llandaff St
Marital Status: Widow
Registration district: Manchester
Sub registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors:
Piece: 4004
Folio: 40
Page Number: 73
Household Members:
Name Age
James Smith 21 - Manchester, machine minder
Margaret Smith 22 - Manchester, artificial flower maker
Ellen Wood 56


There are several James & Margaret Smith couples in later censuses, but not all POB's match, so far as I can see at the moment.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 2 May 2018 17:06

????1901

Name: James Smith
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Margaret Smith..........................born Manchester
Birth Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Wandsworth
Parish: All Saints
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub-registration district: Wandsworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 01
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 481
Folio: 25
Page Number: 42
Household schedule number: 267
Household Members:
Name Age
James Smith 42
Margaret Smith 43

cane

cane Report 2 May 2018 16:46

Hi
I have this marriage:16th January 1881.Albert memorial collyhurst.:James smith age 22, batchelor occupation "painter".Father Henry smith:Shoe maker,
Married Margaret wood age 22,spinster.Father:Andrew wood,tailor
I have them on the 1881 census with Margaret's mother Ellen wood (born 1825 in Ireland)...For the life of me i cannot find them after this 1881 census
Much help , well appreciated :-)