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Hi can anyone please help ,Looking for Joseph william Hocking all I have on him is that he died in 11/10/1958 cause by drowning at Wellington New Zealand ,Was told that he married twice second wife name was lillian Jane Johns Ist wife died he was on the west coast mining ,also he or his parents were born in America ,he had three children George ,Joan ,Raymond Raymond could have name of Johns as they were not married when he was born
Thanks Rose

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1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Maynes Row Tuckingmill, Illogan, Cornwall, England

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Joseph William Hocking Head Married Male 36 1875 Brea Cornwall Miner Undergd
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Annie Jane Hocking Wife Married Female 27 1884 Brea Cornwall -
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Myrtle May Hocking Stepdaughter Single Female 18 1893 Wheal Jerry Cornwall Illogan Machine Girl Factory
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Telfer Hocking Stepson Single Male 17 1894 Turkingmill Illogan Cornwall Illogan Shop Helper Errand Boy
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Leola Pearl Hocking Stepdaughter Single Female 14 1897 Tuckingmill Illogan Cornwall Illogan School
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Joseph William Hocking Son Single Male 10 1901 Sta America School
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Stanley Hocking Son Single Male 9 1902 United Stated America School
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Leonard Hocking Son Single Male 3 1908 Tuckingmill Illogan Cornwall At Home
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Eldred Irvin Hocking Son Single Male 0 1911 Tuckingmill Illogan Cornwall At Home

His death record has a slightly different birth date and age .............


New Zealand death index

Registration number 1958/31448
Record set New Zealand Death Index
First name(s) Joseph William
Last name Hocking
Registration year 1958
Country New Zealand
Birth date 1897
Age at death 61
Certificate ordering To order, visit https://www.bdmonline.dia.govt.nz/NonHistoricRecords
Category Life Events (BDMs)

??????? is this him leaving the UK?????

from FMP


Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960

First name(s) Joseph
Last name Hocking
Gender Male
Age 30
Birth year 1900
Occupation MINER
Departure year 1930
Departure day 28
Departure month 2
Departure port Southampton
Destination port Wellington
Destination WELLINGTON
Country New Zealand
Destination country New Zealand
Ship name Ionic
Ship official number 115337
Ship master's first name W
Ship master's last name LLOYD

from image:-
Address:- 11 Fore St, R.S.O, Cornwall
Intending to live in New Zealand

I don,t think this is him , he move into my husband grandmother in 1939 he all ready had to chidren with is 1st wife who died and was buried on west coast of south isalnd

?? Joseph's first marriage, from Freebmd

Marriages Mar 1927 (>99%)

Hocking Joseph W Thomas Redruth 5c 319
Thomas Ethel L Hocking Redruth 5c 319


There could be at least 2 children born of this marriage, in 1928 and 1929.

Ethel and 3 children left the UK in July 1930 .........


Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960

First name(s) E
Last name Hocking
Title MRS
Gender Female
Age 20
Birth year 1910
Occupation H WIFE
Departure year 1930
Departure day 18
Departure month 7
Departure port Southampton
Destination port Auckland
Destination AUCKLAND
Country New Zealand
Destination country New Zealand
Ship name Ionic
Ship official number 115337
Ship master's first name W T
Ship master's last name HODGSON

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Address:- St Hilary, Marazion, Penzance, Cornwall
Age:- 20
Going to New Zealand

Accompanied by 3 children, ages 2, 1 and "infant"

These children could still be alive, so I am posting their names on here. I will send you a pm, if you want their names.

This looks like Ethel's death ...... the age is right from the passenger list


New Zealand death index

Registration number 1938/24696
Record set New Zealand Death Index
First name(s) Ethel Louisa
Last name Hocking
Registration year 1938
Country New Zealand
Birth date 1910
Age at death 28
Certificate ordering To order, visit https://www.bdmonline.dia.govt.nz/NonHistoricRecords
Category Life Events (BDMs)
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from Australia & New Zealand, New Zealand

This could be Ethel's birth registration .............

THOMAS, ETHEL LOUISE mmn RICHARDS
GRO Reference: 1911 M Quarter in PENZANCE Volume 05C Page 185

Oh dear ......

it looks as though all 3 of the children died, the baby in 1931 and the 2 older in 1938.

Audrey was an "infant" when travelling .......

New Zealand Death Index

Registration number 1931/1595
Record set New Zealand Death Index
First name(s) Audrey
Last name Hocking
Registration year 1931
Country New Zealand
Birth date 1930
Age at death 1
Certificate ordering To order, visit https://www.bdmonline.dia.govt.nz/NonHistoricRecords
Category Life Events (BDMs)
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from Australia & New Zealand, New Zealand


Leola was born 1929, so the age is right ........

Registration number 1938/18180
Record set New Zealand Death Index
First name(s) Leola
Last name Hocking
Registration year 1938
Country New Zealand
Birth date 1929
Age at death 9
Certificate ordering To order, visit https://www.bdmonline.dia.govt.nz/NonHistoricRecords
Category Life Events (BDMs)
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from Australia & New Zealand, New Zealand


Pauline was born 1928, again the age is right ..........

Registration number 1938/18183
Record set New Zealand Death Index
First name(s) Pauline Joyce
Last name Hocking
Registration year 1938
Country New Zealand
Birth date 1928
Age at death 10
Certificate ordering To order, visit https://www.bdmonline.dia.govt.nz/NonHistoricRecords
Category Life Events (BDMs)
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from Australia & New Zealand, New Zealand

Sorry, but I think that IS him ..... he travelled out first, then his first wife followed afterward with 3 children. His wife and 3 children had all died by 1938.

I can't find out if he had any more children with his first wife in NZ between 1930 and 1938 when she died.

Thank you Sylvaln he did have to other childen with his 1st wife they were George and joan not sure if Joesph married is 2nd wife lillian Johns (neeBone) or they just lived together the had 1 child Raymond

from family search, the Mormon site, free to use

https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/list

Select Australia & New Zealand, or just New Zealand


Joseph's arrival in New Zealand

New Zealand, Archives New Zealand, Passenger Lists, 1839-1973

Name: Joseph Hocking
Event Type: Immigration
Event Date: 1930
Event Place: Wellington (other ports also listed), New Zealand
Age: 30
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Miner
Birth Year (Estimated): 1900
Ship Name: Ionic
Departure Port: London
Arrival Port: Wellington (other ports also listed)
Arrival Place: Wellington (other ports also listed)

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Travelled 3rd Class
Port at which contracted to land:- Lyttleton


Arrival of Ethel and children .........

New Zealand, Archives New Zealand, Passenger Lists

Name Ethel L Hocking
Event Type Immigration
Event Date 26 Aug 1930
Event Place Auckland (other ports also listed), New Zealand
Age 20
Marital Status Married
Occupation Housewife
Birth Year (Estimated) 1910
Ship Name Ionic
Departure Port Southampton
Arrival Port Auckland (other ports also listed)
Arrival Place Auckland (other ports also listed)

from image:-
Travelled 3rd Class
Disembarked at Lyttleton

Travelled with Leola P, age 2½, Pauline J age 1½, and Audrey, infant

from familysearch

New Zealand, Archives New Zealand, Probate Records

Name Joseph William Hocking
Event Type Probate
Event Date 1958
Event Place Wellington, Wellington, New Zealand
Residence Place Wellington
Occupation Company Mgr
Agency AAOM
Series Number 6031
Series Name Wellington Probate Files [Third Sequence], 1947-2003
Item Code R23053384
Box Number 281
Record Number 1046/58
First Image Number 190
Last Image Number 197
Number of Images 8

You can open the image and read the will

Basically, his wife Lillian Jane Hocking and his solicitor Clifford Oswald Bell were named Executrix and Executor and Trustees.

All debts to be paid, then one-half of remainder to be given to Lillian Jane Hocking and the remaining ½ shared between his children William George Hocking, Joan Lillian Mary Hocking and Raymond Charles Hocking or those of them that survive "me" on reaching the age of 21

The will was made 25 February 1952

Death certificate of William George, showing his birth date ..... I cna't find a birth registration for him


New Zealand death index

Registration number 2005/23598
Record set New Zealand Death Index
First name(s) William George
Last name Hocking
Registration year 2005
Country New Zealand
Birth date 15/08/1935
Age at death 70
Certificate ordering To order, visit https://www.bdmonline.dia.govt.nz/NonHistoricRecords

This is great thank you so much , We didn,t fiind a marriage certificate for them with lilliam personal papers found a birth for there youngest son raymond johns

I can't find birth registrations for either of the 3 younger children or for a marriage online BUT several countries (Canada, Australia) have strict laws on when such information can be released to the public ...... often referred to as the 50/70 or 80/100 year rule depending on whether it's death, marriage or birth. I suspect NZ has the same rule.

Thank you for your help Sylvialn