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Mary Ann Herbert (1852) 1871 census

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Wendy

Wendy Report 7 May 2018 09:38

Hi Please can you help.Mary Ann Herbert was born in Uxbridge Middlesex in 1852,daughter of Richard Herbert and Dardinia Herbert née Bampton.
I have found Mary Ann on the 1861 census with mother Dardinia and sister Elizabeth but there is no sign of her or her family in 1871.
Mary Ann didn't marry Henry King until 1873 so in 1871 she was still a Herbert
Regards
Wendy

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 May 2018 10:00

For possible location in 1871, is this the marriage?

Dea

Dea Report 7 May 2018 10:34

It probably would have been if you had pasted it Erika ;-) :-D :-D

Any way, as you haven't noticed your omission yet and in case anyone is still wondering, here it is:

Marriages Jun 1873 (>99%)
CLARK Fanny Staines 3a 24 Scan available - click to view
DRINKWATER William Staines 3a 24 Scan available - click to view
Herbert Mary Ann Staines 3a 24 Scan available - click to view ***
King Henry Albert Staines 3a 24 Scan available - click to view ***

Dea Xxx ;-)

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 7 May 2018 10:35

She gives her father as william a labourer


Name: Mary Ann Herbert
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1852
Marriage Date: 25 May 1873
Marriage Place: St Mary, Sunbury on Thames, Surrey, England
Father: William Herbert
Spouse: Henry Albert King
Register Type: Parish Register

Both are down as living in Sunbury

Her birth wasn't registered so how do you know her parents names


Ahh
HERBERT, MARY-ANN BAMPTON
GRO Reference: 1852 D Quarter in UXBRIDGE UNION Volume 03A Page 23

But how do you know it's the right Mary Ann

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 May 2018 10:36

Oh dear - I blame the heat! (Any excuse will do -lol!)

Name: Henry Albert King
Gender: Male
Age: 20
Birth Date: 1853
Marriage Date: 25 May 1873
Marriage Place: Sunbury On Thames,London,England
Spouse: Mary Ann Herbert

Maddie

Maddie Report 7 May 2018 11:34

is this mary 1881

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Hamlet of Whitton, Twickenham, Brentford, Middlesex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Henry King Head Married Male 31 1850 Whitton, Middlesex, England Labourer & Army Reserve England -
Mary Ann King Wife Married Female 29 1852 Peckham, Surrey, England -

1901
Henry A King Head Married Male 38 1853 Middlesex, England Plasterer ----------- born twickenham
Transcription
Mary A King Wife Married Female 37 1854 Middlesex, England - --- born west drayton
Transcription
Henry J King Son Single Male 17 1874 Middlesex, England Groom
Transcription
Emily A King Daughter - Female 11 1880 Middlesex, England Scholar
Transcription
Florence King Daughter - Female 7 1884 Middlesex, England Scholar
Transcription
Elda V King Daughter - Female 3 1888 Middlesex, England -
Transcription
Gertrude L J King Daughter - Female 1 1890 Middlesex, England -

KING, HENRY JAMES HERBERT Order
GRO Reference: 1873 D Quarter in BRENTFORD Volume 03A Page 64

Wendy

Wendy Report 7 May 2018 11:41

Thank you all for trying.I was hoping for one of your miracles.I have searched on Ancestry/Findmypast/MyHeritage and FamilySearch all to no avail.
Mary Ann Herbert married did Henry Albert King.The only missing link for the family is the 1871 census.
Wendy

Maddie

Maddie Report 7 May 2018 11:47

ALBERT HENRY
Last name KING
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1851
Age 53
Death quarter 2
Death year 1904
District Brentford
County Middlesex
Volume 3A
Page 35
Country England

MARY A
Last name KING
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1854
Age 63
Death quarter 3
Death year 1917
District Brentford
County Middlesex
Volume 3A
Page 168
Country England

????
MARY ANN
Last name HERBERT
Birth year 1852
Birth quarter 4
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District Uxbridge
County Middlesex
Country England
Volume 3A
Page 23
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007

Wendy

Wendy Report 7 May 2018 13:51

Please I only need the 1871 census I have all the info apart from that.
Wendy

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 May 2018 13:59

There are very few gaps in the records for 1871.

These are the missing 'pieces' as known to FMP

England

Piece County Parish
3278 Leicestershire St Margaret, Leicester
4213 Lancashire Preston
4729 Yorkshire astoft and Haldenby
Wales

Piece County Parish
5444 Glamorgan Llangyfelach
Penderry
Llandilotalybont
5463 Glamorgan Porteynon
Penrice
Oxwich
Nicholaston
Penmaen
Reynoldston
Llandewy
Knelston
5590 Breconshire Talgarth
Grwyne-fawr
Grwyne-fechan


When did the mother die?

Maddie

Maddie Report 7 May 2018 14:01

can't see her with a pob as west drayton or peckham or with father william as per marriage

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 May 2018 14:02

29 Marys living in Sunbury in 1871 - none of them is your girl

Big drawback with 1871 is that one can't search by birthplace - Uxbridge in this case

Wendy

Wendy Report 7 May 2018 14:21

Thanks ErikaH

Kayak

Kayak Report 7 May 2018 16:33

Maybe this one??? (possibly a drinking establishment)

Name: Mary Herbert
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1871
Event Place: Kingston On Thames, Surrey, England
Enumeration District: 19
Gender: Female
Age: 21
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Servant
Relationship to Head of Household: Servant
Birth Year (Estimated): 1850
Birthplace: United Kingdom
Entry Number: 5
Affiliate Image Identifier: GBC/1871/0861/0170
Household

Thomas Hill
Head
Male
67
Guildford, Surrey
Occ: Victuller
Thomas Best

Son-in-law
Male
28
Kingston Upon Thames, London

Mary Jane Best
Daughter
Female
30
Guildford, Surrey

Geo Harman
Potman
Male
21
Barbican, London


Mary Herbert<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Servant
Female
21
United Kingdom

malyon

malyon Report 7 May 2018 17:12

Mary Herbert
England and Wales Census, 1871
Name: Mary Herbert
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1871
Event Place: London, St Marylebone, London, Middlesex, England
Enumeration District: 3
Gender: Female
Age: 19
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Domestic Servant
Relationship to Head of Household: Servant
Birth Year (Estimated): 1852
Birthplace: St James, Middlesex
Entry Number: 12
Affiliate Image Identifier: GBC/1871/0156/0072
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Mary Saeldin Head Female 53 Brussels, Belgium
Pauline Flaminan Partner Female 49 Bruges, Belgium
Mary Herbert Servant Female 19 St James, Middlesex

malyon

malyon Report 7 May 2018 17:25

Dardinia Bampton
England Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: Richard Herbert
Spouse's Name: Dardinia Bampton
Event Date: 21 Mar 1852
Event Place: Denham, Buckingham, England