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Thank you for that and taking the time to look further these are distant relative but once I got into them I wanted to find out more especially when other people on ancestry had the same parents but married to different people I like to make my tree as positive as I can if I'm not sure I have the person in grey as in not known sex until I can confirm one way or another

once again thank you for your help

Looks likely

Deaths Dec 1962
RAYNER Winifred E 58 Lewisham 5d 12

We went to Tunbridge wells so wonder on this one. One closed record


Household (1 Person)
27 Meadow Road , Royal Tunbridge Wells M.B., Kent, England
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Winifred E Rayner E 20 Sep 1906 Unpaid Domestic Duties m
Ref: RG101/1779C/017/12 Letter Code: DIQF
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She is in the same household as a Webb family

He is on his own on the 1939 register and no closed records so maybe Winifred had evacuated with Pamela

I come from that area and we were evacuted very quickly in sept 1939

I am in Kent with the foster family . My sister was with me and she and the foster parents are all open records as sadly all have passed
I am the closed record. Lol ;-)

Looking on zoopla, it doesn't look like the house has been sold so the family may still be living in Edward's home.

Yes, Sylann. ER is electoral register. There is a possible daughter on the register with them.


Pamela seems to be Edward's daughter.

Not seeing an obvious death for Winifred but perhaps she and Edward divorced and she remarried.

What is ER (electoral register) ?is their any more info on them I have found a birth for Pamela in 1933 which would make her in her 80s in 2014 which is very likly
It all fits but wondering if their may be another generation involved

Yes :-)

Thank you Just so I've got it right Edward John Married Winifred King
They had a daughter Pamela who married in 1963

Pamela is on the ER with her husband and a possible daughter until 2014 (they may have opted out the open register then). She was living at the same address as Edward John so probably inherited his house.

His marriage

Marriages Dec 1927 (>99%)
KING Winifred E Rayner Lewisham 1d 2013
RAYNER Edward J KING Lewisham 1d 2013

Looks like Pamela married in 1963. Her maiden name was Rayner.

I have an Edward John Rayner in my tree I've got his parents I'm trying to find a little more about him . I've got his Army record which states he was born 16 May 1894 he lived in Plumstead London I've found him in the 1939 Census living at 32 Rochester way Blackheath Kent which states he was married but his wife isn't with him he died in 1965 living at the same address leaving his money to a Pamela Winifred Sutherland a married woman?
I would be grateful if anyone could tell me more about Pamela or who he married I have found a marriage to a Alice Pascoe 1929 but it has James not John and I think they are together in 1939 both born 1904 so ruled them out