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Name: William Charles Blake
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1876
Marriage Date: 4 Apr 1897
Marriage Place: St Mary, Hoxton, Hackney, England
Father: William Blake
Spouse: Emily Louisa Franke
Register Type: Parish Register

All details for his father, residence etc are correct. I'm confident about this.

Then it all goes wrong.
I'd assumed that the 1911 was the same family

Name: William Blake
Age in 1911: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: London, United Kingdom
Civil Parish: Lambeth
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 34 White Hart Square S E
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: ROAD SWEEPER
Registration district: Lambeth
Registration District Number: 25
Sub-registration district: Kennington
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Piece: 1993
Household Members:
Name Age
William Blake 33
Emily Blake 31
Caroline Blake 9
Charles Blake 6

However, the children's mmn is Coster as per GRO.
That matches with this marriage
Marriages Sep 1900 (>99%)
Blake William Lambeth 1d 684
Coster Emily Lambeth 1d 684

They had a number of later children, the youngest being
Births Mar 1919 (>99%)
Blake Annie Coster Lambeth 1d 408

So - where did William Charles &/or Emily Louisa (Franke) go?
Emily's dob from baptism 12 May 1876
William's birth reg
BLAKE, WILLIAM CHARLES RICE
GRO Reference: 1877 S Quarter in SHOREDITCH Volume 01C Page 71

Just found this

Name: Ada Emily Blake
Gender: Female
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 10 Apr 1898
Baptism Place: Hoxton Christ Church, Hackney, England
Father: William Charles Blake
Mother: Emily Louisa Blake

Emily Ellen Florence Blake
Gender: Female
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 10 Jun 1900
Baptism Place: Hoxton Christ Church, Hackney, England
Father: William Charles Blake
Mother: Emily Louisa Blake

Its far too late for this!! :-(

BLAKE, ADA EMILY mmn FRANKS
GRO Reference: 1898 J Quarter in SHOREDITCH Volume 01C Page 43

BLAKE, EMILY ELLEN FLORENCE FRANKS Order
GRO Reference: 1900 S Quarter in SHOREDITCH Volume 01C Page 26

England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915

Name: Emily Louisa Franke
Registration Year: 1876
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Shoreditch
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1c
Page: 119


London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1917

Name: Emily Louisa Franke
Gender: Female
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 12 May 1876
Baptism Place: Hoxton St John, Hackney, England
Father: Charles Frederick William Franke
Mother: Jane Franke

Address:- Bookham (??Bootham) Place
Father:- Cabinet Maker
Note:- Born 20 April 1876


NOTE:- There is an Emily Louisa Franks, bit she wasn't baptised until 1888, so I think NOT to be confused.

Just out of interest ..............

William Charles' occupation on the marriage certificate is Stick Mounter

Emily Louisa's occupation is Tie Maker

Address for both is 80 Westmorland Place


Is this Emily Ellen Florence's death???

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915

Name Emily Florence Blake
Estimated Birth Year abt 1901
Registration Year 1902
Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death 1
Registration district Poplar
Parishes for this Registration District Poplar
Inferred County London
Volume 1c
Page 444


I also got a lead to this from a family tree on ancestry ........... interesting, one or both failed to appear for the marriage!

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name Emily Louisa Franke
Gender Female
Marriage Age 21
Record Type Marriage
Birth Date abt 1876
Marriage Date Feb 1897
Marriage Place St James the Apostle, Islington Islington, England
Father Charles Frederick Franke
Spouse William Charles Blake
Register Type Parish Register
Household Members
Name Age
William Charles Blake
William Charles Blake
Emily Louisa Franke
Charles Frederick Franke

The entry in the register is crossed out, with "failed to appear" written across it

The address for both William and Emily is 20 Essex Road

William Charles' father's occupation is shown on this entry as Pocket Book Maker

There are several family trees on ancestry but they all seem to have the confusion, if such it be, with the children Caroline, Charles etc.

but we do have the advantage of being able to use the GRO Index.

I can't explain it!

Illustrated Police News 16 July 1910

STRATFORD
A BRUTAL ASSAULT
William Charles Blake, 33, of City Road, Shoreditch, was charged with assaulting his wife Emma. He was further charged with assaulting William Lewis, a French polisher of Cassiobury Road, Walthamstow.

It seems that some ten years ago Mrs Blake was seperated from her husband on the grounds of cruelty, and for the last 7 years had been living with Lewis...

The prisoner pleaded that he went to the house to see his children and finding Lewis with his wife he got wild...

The Bench reminded the prisoner that he had not troubled about his children in many years and it was clear he did not want to see them...

Here's Emily in 1911 with partner, William Lewis:

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
55 Cassiobury Road W Stow, Walthamstow, London & Essex, England

Emily Blake Head Married Female 33 1878 Hoxton Tie Maker
William Lewis Boarder Married Male 36 1875 St Luke French Polisher
Richard Morgan Boarder Single Male 29 1882 City Butcher
Ada Blake Daughter Single Female 17 1894 Hoxton -
Emily Blake Daughter Single Female 11 1900 Hoxton -
Henry Blake Son Single Male 3 1908 Walthamstow

(Ada is 13 on image)

Emily- married 14 years, 6 children, 3 still living.

Can't find Henry at the moment, but these are possible other children:

BLAKE, WILLIAM JOHN TURNBULL FRANKE
GRO Reference: 1906 S Quarter in WEST HAM Volume 04A Page 467

BLAKE, ELLEN FLORENCE FRANKE
GRO Reference: 1909 D Quarter in WEST HAM Volume 04A Page 452

BLAKE, ESTHER DORIS FRANK
GRO Reference: 1911 D Quarter in WEST HAM Volume 04A Page 863

Thank's Sylvia, that does help.

Austin - the newspaper article is a brilliant find! Was it on FMP?

I'd seen the census before logging off and thought that might be relevant. Child Henry could well be a Lewis rather than a Blake!
I've a lot of deleting to do.

As we're now more of less happy with Emily's 1911, is it possible to find them in 1901? Was William Charles in prison for the 1911?

Yes, article was FMP.

I'll see if I can find any of them in 1901 (and William Charles in 1911)

- William Charles got 4 months hard labour on July 1910- so he was likely a free man by the time of the census (as long as he was good!)

DET- look at the institutions section on FMP. William Charles was possibly using the name Franks

William Charles in prison in 1901 ??



William Blake
in the 1901 England Census
Name: William Blake
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation to Head: Prisoner
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Shoreditch, London, England
Civil Parish: Islington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Lower Holloway
ED, institution, or vessel: His Majestys Prison Pentonville
Neighbors:
Piece: 176
Folio: 98
Page Number: 34
Household schedule number: 1


Married, general labourer

I need to check this out- bear with me. It could just be coincidence.

Army Service Records:

First name(s) William
Last name Franks
Age 39
Birth year 1877
Birth town London (Shoreditch)
Birth county Middlesex
Birth country England
Service number 12599
Regiment Royal Berkshire Regiment
Unit / Battalion 6th, 9th (Reserve) Battalion
Year 1916
Residence county Wales

Next of kin (crossed out- Albert Franks, Stanford Road)
Sister: Mrs G Blake115 Mortimer Road, London

He did have a brother Albert Henry Blake.
The addresses I have for him are
1901 - 80 Westmoreland Place, Hoxton
1903 to 1906 - 89 Packington Street, Islington
1911 - 64 Elmore Street, Islington

Not sure who the Mrs G Blake is, unless she was Albert's wife.
Albert death 13 Aug 1917 & is recorded on YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL.
Husband of Gertrude Blake, of 38, Hartington Rd., Station Rd., Walthamstow, London.

But Gertrude wasn't a Franks:


Gertrude Ward
in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932
Name: Gertrude Ward
Gender: Female
Record Type: Banns (Bann)
Marriage Banns Date: 14 Dec 1902
Marriage Banns Place: St Philip the Evangelist, Arlington Square, Islington, England
Spouse: Albert Henry Blake
Register Type: Parish Register

>>>>>>>>>>>> But perhaps "sister" meant "sister-in-law".

Det- I'm going to leave that up for now- just in case. I'm having trouble identifying Mrs G Blake, but might come back to it. My brain is not at it's best today- I have several infected insect bites on my feet, which is making me terribly irritable (more so than usual!).

ArgyllGran - Sister in law is probably more like it.

Austin - so sorry you're feeling under the weather. You must be one of those people who are attractive to biters. OH is like that - we do wonder if he has too much sugar in his blood!

To anyone still around, can you find the GRO entry for child Henry? I'm sure I found it last night with several middle names. Its hiding now. :-|

Added - found the one I was thinking off, but its not Henry.

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
BLAKE, WILLIAM JOHN TURNBULL FRANKE
GRO Reference: 1906 S Quarter in WEST HAM Volume 04A Page 467

It might have been one of the 3 children who'd died.

I can't see the child Henry as either Blake, Lewis, or Franks.

What surname did you think you'd found him under?

I do wish it was possible to search the GRO site without specifying the child's surname!

Added it to the previous post - it wasn't Henry!

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
BLAKE, WILLIAM JOHN TURNBULL FRANKE
GRO Reference: 1906 S Quarter in WEST HAM Volume 04A Page 467

Sorry - I seemed to have missed reading some of the earlier post. Must try harder. :-(

Austin had already posted the William John Turnbull Blake as well as other possibilities.

Places to go, things to see. Catch you later. Thanks for the help. :-)